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IaSpanky
12-07-2010, 09:32 AM
I was thinking about sellling my large alice pack and frame and going with this bag here http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=713472 Any thoughts from you all? I would be using either bag (alice or the one above) as an all purpose bag not just a bob. Thanks

Rick
12-07-2010, 09:35 AM
What's the purpose of changing?

IaSpanky
12-07-2010, 09:39 AM
I kinda find the alice uncomfortable, however I got it CHEAP

Rick
12-07-2010, 09:57 AM
If the straps are the problem you can upgrade them to the better padded Molle straps. There are several mods online that show how to do it. I upgraded mine and find it a very good pack. I don't think you'll find a tougher pack than the Alice.

http://www.preparedsociety.com/forum/f48/upgrade-your-alice-pack-check-out-these-pads-straps-4317/

There are just so many mods that can be done to the Alice and so much gear designed for it. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anything better. That's just my opinion, however.

hunter63
12-07-2010, 11:23 AM
I didn't know you COULD get rid of a piece of gear?

You just get new gear, try it out, use it,........but never get rid of it!
I guarantee there will be a time when you will say...I wish I wouldn't have gotten rid of....

If you have to, send it to me, I'll save it for you, so want you want it back, I'll send it back.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
12-07-2010, 11:28 AM
Just this weekend I disconnected my large Alice from the frame. I wanted to try packing the frame with smaller modular bags. So far I am in thrilled with the new setup. I'll post it when completed. However, this just means I need another frame for my large alice.

hunter63
12-07-2010, 11:32 AM
Just this weekend I disconnected my large Alice from the frame. I wanted to try packing the frame with smaller modular bags. So far I am in thrilled with the new setup. I'll post it when completed. However, this just means I need another frame for my large alice.

LOL, LOL, yeah......Thats what I'm talkin' about..........But never considered "getting rid of it", right?

COWBOYSURVIVAL
12-07-2010, 11:37 AM
LOL, LOL, yeah......Thats what I'm talkin' about..........But never considered "getting rid of it", right?

It ain't goin' nowhere, just stacked it with my other 3 packs.....

Rick
12-07-2010, 11:40 AM
You can buy shelves for the frame, too.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
12-07-2010, 01:48 PM
You can buy shelves for the frame, too.

Never seen one in person...how does it attach to the frame? I have a good idea where just not how? I was considering making my own...

Erratus Animus
12-07-2010, 02:33 PM
Buy American!!!:angermanagement:

Rick
12-07-2010, 04:10 PM
It hooks at the bottom and also you can hook one mid frame. It has two horizontal tabs that just slip over the bar on the frame. Real simple.

http://www.imsplus.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=30257

IaSpanky
12-07-2010, 11:15 PM
Buy American!!!:angermanagement:

If buying used gear from an American company where is the fault in that.?

Winter
12-07-2010, 11:51 PM
You can buy shelves for the frame, too.


These suck, they are loud and don't really attach.

If you have to haul MFC's or MWC's, then they are good as that is what they are designed for.

IaSpanky
12-08-2010, 12:00 AM
and the other part of selling my pack is my wife is tight with my money ...lol

crashdive123
12-08-2010, 06:57 AM
If money is tight, I believe you will pay more for the ruck you are looking at than you will get for the Alice. I don't like to pay more than $25 for medium and large Alice packs with frames.

Rick
12-08-2010, 08:56 AM
Buy American (chuckle). I suppose you buy only stuff made by your clan. No? Then stuff made in your town. No? Then stuff made only in your state. No? Well, I guess you have to draw the line on being loyal somewhere.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
12-08-2010, 09:53 AM
These suck, they are loud and don't really attach.

If you have to haul MFC's or MWC's, then they are good as that is what they are designed for.

I was concerned about the purchase for that very reason. I think I'll make my own. I have some .125" aluminum, I think I'll form it 90 deg. and simply bolt it on with wingnuts. I was looking for a bottom more so than a shelf I want my pack to stand on it's own, which it does now with the modular system I am creating but this would protect the bottom of the pack from a wet enviroment, etc. Perhaps I'll play with the design so that it can be easily removed to be used as some sort of tool...several ideas come to mind... cutting board, digging tool,...Anyone have any other ideas to make it multiuse. I'll try and get pics up of my mods to the pack so far tonight.

Rick
12-08-2010, 10:41 AM
Well, I have two and I don't think they suck. If you use them to haul with they work just fine.

COWBOYSURVIVAL
12-08-2010, 01:28 PM
Well, I have two and I don't think they suck. If you use them to haul with they work just fine.

I am sure they don't "suck". Thanks for the info! Will post the outcome....

lucznik
12-08-2010, 02:27 PM
and the other part of selling my pack is my wife is tight with my money ...lol

In that case, you really shouldn't be spending $60 on a USED pack.

Do your research, find the bag that really and truly is going to do the maximum amount of your desired tasks (no one bag will do it all, no matter what the advertising copy says) and spend the money necessary to get that bag. It will cost you far less in the end to buy the right piece of gear first than to look for cheap alternatives that are never quite right and/or aren't built to really last.

Personally, I find this backpack to be as close to a "one bag for everything" option as any I've ever seen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nM6wfjuirE

Rick
12-08-2010, 02:34 PM
You might also opt for the 1600 sq ft Abomination Series. If you do, opt for the optional drag wheels. The up side is you can ship yourself on flights and avoid airport security.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/superpack.jpg

hunter63
12-08-2010, 02:44 PM
and the other part of selling my pack is my wife is tight with my money ...lol

I'm thinking that you have more to worry about than a pack, LOL...........

You need to develop your persuasive skills........or get a lot sneaky-er.
"No, Honey, It's the same one...left it out in the rain and it grew?...Yeah, that's the ticket"

TeToN
02-23-2011, 08:25 AM
I've been out of the Army for 13 years, and I still have saddle sores on my back from my ALICE pack. Dump that thing! I think ALICE packs were the result of a dare somewhere, sometime. I just picked up a new 5.11 Rush 72 in Multicam, and it is an awesome pack. just the right size, tons of pockets inside to keep your gear straight, and most of all, it's super comfortable. I ordered it straight from Viking tactics for the best price. Good luck on your decision!

Rick
02-23-2011, 08:33 AM
What's that old saying? Army suppliers are the lost cost bidder? Something like that.

Old GI
02-23-2011, 09:36 AM
Yeah, well, parachutes are/were a small business set-aside stock class. That makes you feel pretty good as you exit the aircraft.

Also, the only reason I ever got rid of anything was ------ ready ------ D-I-V-O-R-C-E

Pocomoonskyeyes3
02-23-2011, 10:17 AM
Yeah I have to agree on keeping the ALICE pack. JMO But there is nothing tougher or as versatile. True, it might not be as comfortable as others, but that can be alleviated with some mods to it. I have a MOLLE pack, and there is NO WAY I'm getting rid of it. True military surplus stuff is about as tough and versatile as you can find. Looked at some "new" packs recently and you could get a squads worth of packs(MOLLE or ALICE) for the price of a single "back pack"!

cetane
03-24-2011, 10:09 PM
I under stand you die hard ALICE guys, and respect you. Now don't go crazy but; I bought a government surplus lot of 67 large ALICE for $150. Then got the frames, sold them on ebay for $7.50 each. That was ok but in the time I was selling I looked into other mil. packs. Now dam! The ILBE RECON pack is the end all beat all! Its got 5500 ci in the main pack, then 2 accessory pouches on the sides @ 500 ci each. The best part is the attachable assault pack @ 2100 ci. Now this is the do every thing pack. Full load for the max trip with small back pack for when you go for a walk away from camp. I will upload some picks for you all.

Yes ALICE still good and a strong following but it is 1950's tech.

Gunna be a couple of days my post need to be approved. Then I can show ya all.

cetane
03-24-2011, 10:16 PM
Alice http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/th_1709f47e.jpg (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/?action=view&current=1709f47e.jpg)
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And the frames http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/th_0d1a7066.jpg (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/?action=view&current=0d1a7066.jpg)

cetane
03-24-2011, 10:17 PM
double post sorry

cetane
03-24-2011, 10:23 PM
This is the eberle stock G4 operator pack http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/th_05c90fff.jpg (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/?action=view&current=05c90fff.jpg)
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Now it is nice but over priced. It does have the rifle scabbard in it. Thats a FNH F2000 in there barrel just sticks out.
Good pack but to many pockets kill the load capacity.

Rick
03-24-2011, 11:39 PM
Why don't you pack you ALICE and haul it over to the Introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself? You'll like the 21st Century tech there.

cetane
03-25-2011, 11:21 PM
So here it is. The USMC ILBE RECON and RECON assault pack. The USMC ILBE and assault pack. On the left is the RECON pack and is larger than the standard ILBE.
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/th_ad9ead06.jpg (http://s757.photobucket.com/albums/xx217/cetane/?action=view&current=ad9ead06.jpg)
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mccaw69
05-01-2011, 09:48 PM
I've packed my alice for years,have loved every mile/day that i've used it.Recently I has developed jungle rot,so I ordered a new pack last week,that should arrive this coming week.It's similar to the alice,with a couple more outside pockets,I guess I'll see when it gets here,hopefully I haven't wasted my money,If so,i guess i'll end up getting another alice.We'll see.

Alaskan Survivalist
05-02-2011, 12:27 AM
I have been lightening load over the years and gotten to the point I don't carry packs anymore and will never go back to it. I keep a packboard for hualing supplies and such but for just going in the field on foot I just carry the basics and enjoy it more. I will camp with more stuff but when I do a boat or ATV does the hualing not me.

hunter63
05-02-2011, 10:40 AM
I have been lightening load over the years and gotten to the point I don't carry packs anymore and will never go back to it. I keep a packboard for hualing supplies and such but for just going in the field on foot I just carry the basics and enjoy it more. I will camp with more stuff but when I do a boat or ATV does the hualing not me.

I'm with you.........you can "one more thing" your self into some thing you can'y carry.

So for all you younger guys out there........carry all you can now, but note what you do and don't use...or what can do double duty....so you can lighten it up as you get older.

xj2000
05-10-2011, 09:26 PM
Have you ever taken a look at Maxpedition's gear? they make quality stuff. www.maxpedition.com

(This isn't spam)

Dylan
07-19-2011, 10:07 AM
You might also opt for the 1600 sq ft Abomination Series. If you do, opt for the optional drag wheels. The up side is you can ship yourself on flights and avoid airport security.

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q348/safe_zone/superpack.jpg

Is that a pack or a house?!!