Clothing/footwear Info.

[jimjimjimmyjim]

so where do you guys buy your clothes for out door stuff? i mean obviously where you live matters alot for what kind of clothes you'll need. i live near some large pine forests and then also right by a high, scrub desert so any suggestions to a fine clothing retailer?

[Trae B.]

well it depends on what exactly your looking for.camo or just good durable cloths.

[Sarge47]

so where do you guys buy your clothes for out door stuff? i mean obviously where you live matters alot for what kind of clothes you'll need. i live near some large pine forests and then also right by a high, scrub desert so any suggestions to a fine clothing retailer?

I buy BDU's at yard sales dirt cheap, yet they wear forever and have lots of roomy pockets. I have both Woodland & Desert Camo, along with a complete Gore-tex Rain suit and "boonie" hats. Also some bright orange stuff to wear over them if I ever get lost.

[nell67]

BDUS are awsome and very cheap @ yard sales,they are very comfortableeasy to clean and dries fast hung over a clothes line,laid out an a rock in the sun or even on a tree limb.The military boots are also very comfortable,but I can never find them in my size at yard sales.

[ATough]

BDUS are awsome and very cheap @ yard sales,they are very comfortableeasy to clean and dries fast hung over a clothes line,laid out an a rock in the sun or even on a tree limb.The military boots are also very comfortable,but I can never find them in my size at yard sales.

thats what I use as a matter of fact my pack is a alice.

[Sarge47]

BDUS are awsome and very cheap @ yard sales,they are very comfortable & easy to clean and dries fast hung over a clothes line,laid out an a rock in the sun or even on a tree limb.The military boots are also very comfortable,but I can never find them in my size at yard sales.

Yard sales rock! I have found a ton of stuff in new or like new condition for very low $$$! Also, about BDU's, They have a button fly so field repairs are that much easier! Sorry you weren't in my neck of the woods, I have found the boots in many different sizes and actually have four different pairs, three of which are Gore-Tex, including one pair of Desert boots. What size do you wear, I'll keep an eye out for you!

[ATough]

actually have four different pairs, three of which are Gore-Tex, including one pair of Desert boots. What size do you wear, I'll keep an eye out for you!

*drools at comp.*

[nell67]

Yard sales rock! I have found a ton of stuff in new or like new condition for very low $$$! Also, about BDU's, They have a button fly so field repairs are that much easier! Sorry you weren't in my neck of the woods, I have found the boots in many different sizes and actually have four different pairs, three of which are Gore-Tex, including one pair of Desert boots. What size do you wear, I'll keep an eye out for you!


A size 6 in womens,not sure about mens sizes .

[nell67]

Went to a yard sale the other day and they had a whole new box of military light stix,(glow lights great for emergencies) but he wanted a buck a peice for them,I would have given him $5 or $6 for the whole box but not a buck each LOL I am very cheap when it comes to yard sales hehehe!

[Sarge47]

A size 6 in womens,not sure about mens sizes .

I'll keep my eyes open! I was just at one yard sale last week where the lady had a whole Tub of BDUs in Short/small, which is waaaaay to small for me. They were priced decent too. I know where her house was so I'll check back to see if she had any boots & if she did, did they sell? BTW, you should always get boots one size larger than your normal shoe size, it helps allow for extra socks.

[jimjimjimmyjim]

what exactly does bdu stand for? and where would you go if you just wanted some regular, not camo clothes?

[nell67]

I buy a larger size for winter,because I drive about 6 miles on country road before I get to a main road and then another 7 miles before I reach work,and alot of my driving time is done around 2:30 am,it something were to happen I probably would not be located for several hours so I stock my vehicle well for emergencies and try to be as personally prepared as I can (extra socks,thermals,LOL I look like I have gained 10 pounds at least )

[nell67]

Basic Drill Uniform

[Sarge47]

what exactly does bdu stand for? and where would you go if you just wanted some regular, not camo clothes?

BDU stands for "Battle Dress Uniform". The Newest one is the ACU which stands for "American Combat Uniform".

[Sarge47]

I buy a larger size for winter,because I drive about 6 miles on country road before I get to a main road and then another 7 miles before I reach work,and alot of my driving time is done around 2:30 am,it something were to happen I probably would not be located for several hours so I stock my vehicle well for emergencies and try to be as personally prepared as I can (extra socks,thermals,LOL I look like I have gained 10 pounds at least )

Just vizulize what effect that might have if you broke down & someone stopped to help. ;>)

[nell67]

LOL I dont think it would bother me so long as I am warm and dry when I need to be LOL !

[trax]

most places have mil. surplus stores that usually have some good deals as well. If you're in a northern or cold climate, nothing beats traditional native footwear, wool at various weights depending on the environment obviously, is still one of the best materials ever. It will keep you insulated even when you're wet. Good idea to have something blaze orange like Sarge mentioned.

[NevadaCarry]

I have two pairs of these that I like since they are BDU style and I can convert them to shorts when I want to. I want to get a few more pairs in camo.

http://www.soldiercity.com/product-exec/product_id/9972

[Strider]

In Columbia SC (I live an hour away) there is a big surplus place... it has everything, including clothes like this. It also has my favorite thing, a bag of confiscated knives from ppl at airports of about 20 for 4 dollars! Awesome.

[FVR]

What I'm doing in the woods determines what I wear.

Deerhunting prim. style / trekking / hunting with Kentucky / what I do most = mocs, leggins, pull over shirt, I make the leggins and shirts, knee mocs are the arrow french style. Have not made a good pair of mocs yet, I keep trying though.

Deerhunting reg. / hunting = USMC cammys, muck boots, cammys from a good friend and muck boots from a dealer.

Chasing my wife through the woods = nekked.

[nell67]

What I'm doing in the woods determines what I wear.

Deerhunting prim. style / trekking / hunting with Kentucky / what I do most = mocs, leggins, pull over shirt, I make the leggins and shirts, knee mocs are the arrow french style. Have not made a good pair of mocs yet, I keep trying though.

Deerhunting reg. / hunting = USMC cammys, muck boots, cammys from a good friend and muck boots from a dealer.

Chasing my wife through the woods = nekked.

LOL watch out for the briar and thorns!

[trax]

What I'm doing in the woods determines what I wear.
Chasing my wife through the woods = nekked.

Y'know, some folk have taken to posting photos of their outdoor activities here...:eek: :eek: :D :D

[Beo]

90% of the time I wear BDUs Woodland Cammo, or a good cargo pant khaki's in tan or brown, a flannel shirt of greens or browns when its cooler, or tan thermal long wolly shirt with earth tone t-shirt over top and my balmoral cap.
Although I have been known to wear my kilt on several occasions, yup, a good kilt, and my moc's. :D

[trax]

We apparently have the same fashion advisor Mr. Beowulf, although I don't have a kilt, yet. (I'm trying to find out the correct tartan for me ancestors and wear that)

[FVR]

Man, a kilt would be great. Reminds me of a song............

I ran this by my wife once, she put the kybosh on it.

The first rendezvous I attended, many, many years ago. I put on my breech clout, leggins, and shirt. Kissed my wife goodbye and she asked "honey, where you going like that, are you making some kind of Indian porn movie?" "we need to fix this as you can't walk out like that." So she through together a kind of wrap around leather kilt.

"That's better dear, ya don't look so porno now."

[Beo]

Anyone need to know their kilt tartan (Irish or scottish) et me know got it all, and if I don't I ave sooooo many Scot friends and Irish hooligans I can get it. All I need is your sir name (that would be your last name for those who don't know) or where your family is from in either Scotland or Ireland, also have some good connections for kilts and really good prices. PM me if ya don't want ya last name out in the open. :D

[trax]

I will, Beowulf, thanks

[marberry]

if i want really high quality i buy from wholesale sports , im always on the lookout for durable clothing when i go to hangers or surplus stores

[Beo]

Hunting shirt, kilt, leggins of deer sin, footskins moc's made of elk hide, balmoral cap, and that about covers it, a hunting frock if the weather is cold. I only hunt longbow and flintlock. But wear this for camping and hiking and tracking too. :D its an irish thing you wouldn't understand... lol... :D

[corndog-44]

What kind of clothing materials are the most durable for hard travel in the wilderness during the various seasons of the year?

[Tony uk]

I wear a pair of Lowa GTX mid0leg boots and thick boot socks, On my legs i wear a under thermal layer and on top of that a pair of S95 (Soldier 95) trousers and also carry waterproofs in matching colour, On my top i wear another thermal layer then a light wool t-shirt, a medium thickness jumper then a light wind/water proof smok and also carry a thick warm jacket. I bring a nice warm hat and in winter a baliclava.

All that keeps my nice and toasty out in the woods or whereever i am. One thing tho, Layer your clothing so you can take off when its warmer and put on when its colder. Another thing, dont by lots of clothes for your feet, upper body and head and only put on one piece of clotheing on your legs, you will lose a lot of heat by doing that.

[Nativedude]

Depends on your locale?!

Boreal forest:
I usually wear wool or a wool/silk blend of various weights. Light weight in the summer and heavy weight in the winter.

Desert:
Cotton or cotton blends. Something that will retain moisture (water or sweat), yet dry completely before night fall.

Jungle or North Pacific Coast:
Cotton/Nylon blends work best.

No matter where I go I carry my silk unders. Both longs and shorts. They are lightweight,very compact able and will keep you cool in the heat and warm in the cold.

Hope this helps?!

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

wool is my favorite but one must use the layering system

[Rick]

It's hard to beat wool. A polypro material for the first layer although Native Dude's suggestion on silk is also good.

[LarryB]

Years ago in my early twenties I bought a pair of Greb Kodiak's and wore them faithfully everywhere for over fifteen years. They were treated with Sylafex which was a type of waterproofing back then and they sure kept my feet dry. Of course I'd treat them with liquid silicon every spring to keep up the water-resistance power too after the first two years. Hard to beat those tough old boots. Anyone else ever worn Kodiak's?

Fast forward twenty years...If first impressions are anything, the boots I most graciously received this Christmas from my best friend and life-long buddy Bruce, are the cat's meow! These totally awesome boots are very light weight, they're super sturdy and they are also, waterproof. If any of you know the name Mossy Oak, you may be familiar with my new Predator's. These folks, are REAL bush boots. Best I've worn in a long time. The last three days workin' out in the snow up past my knees, sealed the deal for me. No wet or cold feet for this ol' doggy anymore for a couple of years. :cool:

What do y'all wear on your feet most often while bushin' it?:)

[Rick]

Hey, Larry - See this thread:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1100&highlight=boots

[LarryB]

Hi Rick, Oooops, didn't look hard enough for a previous thread, sorry. Pls move this one over there to keep it in line with that one. Thx.:)

[wildWoman]

We have to wear some sort of winter pac boots that are waterproof (because of overflow on the lakes) for about 6 months of the year. I always just buy the cheapo winter gum boots from Crappy Tire, they usually last two seasons. My partner has ordered and tried just about any kind of winter gum boot there is, he's got a pair of Mossy Oak too, but he still hasn't found anything that will last more than 2 years. Maybe because we wear them in pretty cold weather and then also for such a length of time. They'd probably all last longer under "normal" conditions.

Is anyone wearing mukluks? They are our favourite footwear for cold and dry conditions. Always have toasty dry feet even when it's in the -30s.

[Sarge47]

Have either of you tried the "Mickey Boots" put out by the Military?:confused:

[LarryB]

When I'm ice fishing or working in the snow all day, I wear a nice husky "snow-mobile" boot. The thick rubber bottom type with the old fashioned wool felt booties inside and the laced tight nylon tops for going over your pantleg. I also spray the uppers (nylon) with silicon and never get cold or wet even when on the ice all day. Before them, NOTHING worked. :)

[wildWoman]

Hey Sarge, no we haven't tried the army bunny boots. They are popular with quite a few mushers and skidooers but we don't think they really lend themselves to hours of walking or snowshoeing, plus your feet are stewing in their juices in them and you can probably kill a moose with the fumes when you take them off.

[Rick]

It's gonna be the rest of the night before I get that picture out of my head.:eek:

[nell67]

Nah Rick,with your attention span,you've probably already forgotten about it LMAO!

[Rick]

'Bout what?

[nell67]

Thought so....

[Sourdough]

Do they make carbide calks..??? Can worn calks be sharpened...if so how? It seems a shame to discard used calks. I have three pair of calk boots and it seems like the calks last two or three weeks, then the calks have to be changed. Do they make casehardened calks? where is the cheapest place to order replacement calks?

[Rick]

Yes, they do make case hardened calks. I don't know if these guys are the cheapest but they do carry them. I doubt you want as many as they are offering but you might call them and see if they will ship a smaller lot.

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=25011

[Sourdough]

Yes, they do make case hardened calks. I don't know if these guys are the cheapest but they do carry them. I doubt you want as many as they are offering but you might call them and see if they will ship a smaller lot.

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=25011

Thank you, I buy lots of chainsaws and related stuff from Bailey's, I have two pair of their boots. I have been ordering calks from Hoffman Boots, they sell them for $.25 each. Hoffman Boots will ship via. US Mail, which is cheaper than UPS or FEDEX.

[Rick]

I don't think another company anywhere in the world matches them for forestry/wood products. I've bought a couple of pair of gaffs from them. We were issued pole gaffs when I worked outside but, as you know, those are too short to penetrate bark so I ordered some of the tree gaffs to replace them.

[Sourdough]

I don't think another company anywhere in the world matches them for forestry/wood products. I've bought a couple of pair of gaffs from them. We were issued pole gaffs when I worked outside but, as you know, those are too short to penetrate bark so I ordered some of the tree gaffs to replace them.

We order most all of our large powerheads, bars, and chainloops from Bailey's. Bailey's can no longer ship Huskies, but I have 14 Powerheads now and I am an old geez'ier.
I have never used the redwood calks, only the standard calks. When I called Bailey's to ask if the redwood calks would last longer, they said, "no, that they would round off faster.

I use the calk boots in the winter for hiking on the lakes and rivers. That is why the calks need to be sharp. The rounded ones work fine in the summer.

My frustration is that it looks like I could braze a 3/16 nut onto a rod, then screw in the used, rounded calks, and sharpen them on a 2" belt sander. It is the "Homesteader" mentality coming out.

[Rick]

If you're just using them for ice, couldn't you use crampons? Here's a set you can put on over your boots and they have replaceable screws.

http://www.jordandavid.com/icegrips.htm

[Sourdough]

If you're just using them for ice, couldn't you use crampons? Here's a set you can put on over your boots and they have replaceable screws.

http://www.jordandavid.com/icegrips.htm

Rick, Thank-you......I must have 6 pair of those strap-on type. They are O.K. for city use, (car to store) But but you can't do five miles a day, day after day. They work well in the city because you can take them off and still have your boots on. Some of the problems I have had are the nylon straps get wet and freeze solid. Then you can't get them tight, and you can't get them off. On anything more than a few hundred yards the straps loosen, then the sole slips around, if you have mittens on and arctic clothing, adjusting the straps is a pain. Also sticks and stuff get jammed in between your boot and the strap-on. I now have three different type of calk boots for different conditions. 12" Packs that have calks and very thick felt liner (Hoffman Boots) also 14" rubber calk boots by "Viking", via. Bailey's; and a pair of leather 16" Lineman's calk boots made by White and sold through Bailey's. My next pair will be 6" Hiking boots with calks.

[Rick]

Well, I have to tell you, that was some good info on the strap ons. Things I never would have considered. I sure do understand the adjusting straps with mittens on. What a pain!

[RBB]

Looking for good quality Merino wool long johns. Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Looking for a good quality vendor.

RBB

[RBB]

Haven't seen a calk boot since I was logging in Alaska in the 1970s. Brings back some memories. They were sure good in a fight.

[Sourdough]

I mostly wear Carhart Logger pants, they are very heavy denium 14.5 oz. have scads of pockets, and have large legs. When clothing is wet, and tight and your trying to hike up hill they bind. In the winter flannel lined loggers.
When you think about it, logging clothes are made to last and work in the "WILDERNESS" that is where the trees are, or were.

What does "NOT" work is Tin stuff. Filson makes the very best clothing. And their wool whipcords are number one. But, all that Tin stuff takes generations to break-in. If your standing around in the rain it is great. for welding great, for hikeing not so great, for going in a lion cage for a smackdown great.

[Rick]

Do you wear some protective cover over them in rain? Rain gear, poncho, etc.? Wet cotton, even in summer, can get pretty uncomfortable.

[Sourdough]

Do you wear some protective cover over them in rain? Rain gear, poncho, etc.? Wet cotton, even in summer, can get pretty uncomfortable.

The short answer is no. even "Goat-tex" rain gear you are going to be soaking wet from your own sweat, if you are back packing. We use rain gear as windbreak gear. If your moving just be wet and uncomfortable, when you stop to glass, but on rain gear as a wind break. We generally are wearing hipboots, you fold them down when you are moving, and pull them up to cross streams, or break the wind. It is hard to put :) on Alaska weather, and if you live and work in the wilderness and sleep in a tent for three months in the late fall you are just wet and uncomfortable. That is why I get a kick out of the Bug-Out guy's who are going to leave America and drive to Denali National Park, and live off the fat of the land. Can it be done? Yes. I have a cabin there I have not seen in three years. That should give the Bugouters a clue.

[pgvoutdoors]

Looking for good quality Merino wool long johns. Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Looking for a good quality vendor.

RBB

Marino wool is very nice for the under layers. The wool doesn't have the barbs on the hairs like other wools, in-turn no itchy or scratchy feelings. Smartwool is one of the best companies out there. It's pricy but holds up well and works. Check out their web site smartwool.com for their product line and then shop around for the best prices.

[Sourdough]

Filson merino are the best. Silk is great. silk on the bottom then wool works great. Expensive but great.

[Ole WV Coot]

Carhart, the complete line. I worked in them for more years than I care to think about. If it's 40 degrees or above and raining you either get wet from the rain or your own sweat, I don't mind rain.

[pgvoutdoors]

Filson merino are the best. Silk is great. silk on the bottom then wool works great. Expensive but great.

Filson's outerwear is great, very traditional and classic design, the best out there! They only offer a few pieces of underwear though.

[Rick]

I also wore Carharts when I worked outside. I wore the coveralls and I had the coat with the removable hood. Didn't work out in the rain, though. We had a saying about rain in our trade. "First drop is God's fault, the second drop is yours.":D

[Sourdough]

Your right good stuff but very expensive, If I live 20 more years I have plenty to last. Which works out well when you are retired. If I could swing it I would have one last pair of Filson Whipcords. I wonder if they have gee'zer discounts.

[FVR]

In the winter, I prefer wool under, canvas outer, and buckskin if it's really cold.

Even under modern cammys, I will wear my wool leggins and wool shirt, with a canvas pull over with cammys outside.

When the wind is blowing hard, wool unders anything in the middle with a good buckskin pull over and leggins.

During working hours, I have a pair of Carhart insulated overalls that I call wussyalls. They are awsome! and waterproof and can be used with only a pants and shirt. Have to give the eng. one for that, as I use to get on them, until I got a pair.

[Rick]

Maybe they offer AARP discounts. (Ancient Alaskan Retired Person).:D

[Sourdough]

I like that, or maybe AARP "Aching Alaskan Retired Person":)

[Rick]

It's your story. I give you permission to tell it any way you want.;)

[Sarge47]

Anybody know anything about "Under-Armor"?:confused:

[Rick]

I don't think that stuff will work, Sarge. It's shaped a bit like a wedge from looking at the picture. I'm more like a bobber. .....:D

[Nativedude]

Filson merino are the best. Silk is great. silk on the bottom then wool works great. Expensive but great.

I wear wool or a wool/silk blend of various weights. Light weight in the summer and heavy weight in the winter. No matter where I go I carry my silk unders. Both longs and shorts. They are lightweight,very compact able and will keep you cool in the heat and warm in the cold.


Anybody know anything about "Under-Armor"?:confused:

I had some "UA" the first year I was in AK. Didn't last long. L.L. Bean has silks that are very tough, wear like iron, wash & dry quickly. I have had mine (4 pair) for 6 years now. (I cut 2 pair down to shorts and t-shirt for summer) I wear them daily. I hand wash them every 3-4 days and hang them by the fireplace to dry. Just got 2 new pair, from the family, for Christmas. . .Whoo hoo! :D

I have 2 pair of medium weight wool/silk blend to wear over my silks for those minus temp. days -- Very warm with my HBCo. wool trappers pants over top and my HBCo. wool capote coat. ;)

[Smok]

Kilts how about Utilikilts www.utilikilts.com/ (http://www.utilikilts.com/) :cool: You will love the Mock_U_Mercials

[Sarge47]

Kilts how about Utilikilts www.utilikilts.com/ (http://www.utilikilts.com/) :cool:

Tony U.K., Here ya go lad!:D:rolleyes:

[corndog-44]

Looking for recommendations for clothing (shell, pants, base layer) that will be comfortable in 35-50 degree weather and in anything from mist to heavy rain. As you may expect I tend to perspire heavily and so need something that breaths well and wicks perspiration. And is underclothing just as important as outerwear in staying dry?

[Rick]

Corndog - I use wool for my base layer. I have a pair of rain pants (for heavy rains). I either bought them from Cabellas or Backcountry. Otherwise just my poncho.

[tracks]

I cant say I have ever had the need for much wool...but carhart makes some dandy
thermals but you had beter buy them big because they will shrink after a few washings. as for the under armor its good stuff but too pricey to crawl around in the
swamp with and I get these creepy spandex flash backs every time see it...footwear
500 mlgs of thinsulate in any quality boot seems to do the job around here. cant
imagine strapping on spikes ...wouldnt wont to get in a A@# kicking contest with you guys.

[FCPL_Shuck]

Im an Air Cadet who is interested in the Aircrew survival portion of the association, and i am wondering what i would need for a weekend by myself and a few otehr frends to practice our survival stuff

[canid]

a plan of activities and skills to learn and practice, then i would recommend a compliment of gear/equiptment suited to your area as you would take on any camping trip.

[Rick]

Shuck -

Go to the introduction section and tell us about yourself. The more we know about you the better we are able to assist. When you want to do this. Where you want to do it. What skills you have, all help to narrow down our suggestions.

[Tony uk]

Tony U.K., Here ya go lad!:D:rolleyes:

YAYAYAYAY Finaly I can take even more of Gods Necter :D

:p

[Beo]

My whole clothing scene has changed sooooooo much in the last couple months, I now do everything primitive. Outside I wear an old pullover hunting shirt, french fly breeches, canvas or wool leggings, and moc's. If its cold like it has been, I wear the same with a capot over the shirt, or a hunting frock, wrap the leggings with strips of wool and wear shoe pac moc's. A toque on my head keeps the heat in there.

[Eagles Talon]

i owuld buy any one of these if they werent so damn expensive for boots,http://www.opsgear.com/Mountaineering-Boots-s/364.htm
I agree, yard sales are a good source of gear.

[awfoxden]

bdu's are great. i use them alot whent hunting, camping, and general getting dirty work. they also last forever. i still have a couple of pares i bought in highschool and aside from being faded and bleached out they still fit and wear well.

i also love the new boy scout pants they came out with last fall. they are called the switchback.

www.scoutstuff.org

around $40.00 new and compare to $60-80 columbia's. dry super fast, and are some of the most comfortable shorts ive worn in the woods when you zip off the legs.

mil surplus italian wool pants are some of the best cold weather pants i've worn and at around $14 a pair you cant go wrong.

for a coat, i hand made a capote from wool blankets and works great out doors.

[DOGMAN]

Man I have a long list of outdoor gear that I use...depends on the season. I consider all this stuff survival wear.

My basic wardrobe:
-Carhartt double knee canvas work pants
-Woolrich expedition brushed canvas shirt
-Wool socks
-Danner mtn light boots

Colder damp weather

-Patagonia capilene long underware (spendy but long lasting) I have all 3 weights
-Codet wool hunting pants
-Patagonia fleece pullover
-Filson shelter cloth packer
-Whites pack boots
_stormy Kromer style cap
-wool gloves

Snowy weather above zero
-Carhartt artic bibs
-Lobben wool boots
-Neos tracker overboots
-North Face goose down hooded jacket
-silk scarf

Below zero to -20
same as above but I substitute
-Canada Goose Expedition Parka
-Outdoor Research Randor mushing cap
-thicker wool gloves

Below -20
-substitute Carhartt Bibs for Northern Outfitters Arctic bibs
-ditch the scarf and wear a Wiggy's balaclava
-Empire Canvas musher mitts

Boots vary alot...spring time I am always wearing rubber knee high muck boots...winter it varies on how wet the snow is...sometimes I wear rubber bottom leather upper pac boots, or just wool Lobbens if its packed down snow, if it is really cold and wet I wear Neos overboots over the Lobbens.

[hoosierarcher]

I am trying to get away from wearing 100% cotton when it's not cold aka when it's warm to hot.
In the Winter I wear wool base layer and out. Loose and layered wool from Merino and Alpaca and.
I'm switching to polyester T-shirts because they dry quicker when wet and more water resistant to start with. I almost got hypothermia one cool Fall morning wearing cotton. If I hadn't had a dry bad in the canoe with wool longjohns and socks and nylon thinsulate snowmobile suit in it.
Here are some websites for close that are not too expensive and wear long and well.
http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/home.aspx?navlocation=top
https://secure.armysurplusforless.com/
http://www.armysurpluswarehouse.com/index.cfm?killnav=1
I also would like to have a kilt or two the ones I have found I like the best are from
http://www.utilikilts.com/
The workmans and the survival models seem the most practical to me. If I can manage to loose the gut I put on since my divorce(some guys drink to self medicate depression I eat) I'm getting at least one of each and giving up on pants for the freedom.

[Rick]

My winter mid-layer wool comes from Cabellas. Shirt and pants. I have no complaints with the quality or the price.

My wool socks are Smartwool Hiking Medium Crew.

[Ole WV Coot]

Gotta go with Carhartt. I practically lived in them for years. Red Wing or Carolina boots. I have worn them for the same amount of time. No complaints about either. Those are climbing boots and with a little higher heel takes a little getting used to.

[SGTD00m]

Rick i got to agree with u Cabellas has some great affordable outdoor clothing. I have had a wool hunting jacket from them for years that constantly out lasts a lot of my more expensive hiking/camp cloths.

[Rick]

I like the Carhartt stuff. (hard to beat Redwing, too). I worked in that as well. But it's just stiff to me and the Cabella's wool is just soft as a baby's bottom. Feels good on my sensitive skin and the shirt serves as a binky when I cuddle up at night.:p

[jsrykken]

I did'nt read all the preceeding posts, but have you looked at Wiggy's ? They use excellent materials and have good reviews. Hardcore clothing for military and cold weather. A little expensive but they work and last forever according to the reviews. Wish I had some cash on hand.

Just Google Wiggy's.

John

[Omid]

cabela's, sports authority, but one thing... If you live near a Dick's Sporting Good's store make sure you check the internet sites of others and their shipping rates. You may get ripped off if you dont.

[Rick]

Just so I understand. Is that a dig against Dick's?

[steiger589]

Do you guys have first hand experience with military surplus-clothing? How's the wear and tear on used combat boots? Can you still get a decent milage out of them?

[crashdive123]

Never bought any used, but i've gotten pretty good mileage out of new ones.

[Rick]

I have bought some but just to use to mow the yard in and general work around the house. When it comes to boots, I think you get what you pay for. Just MHO.

[chiangmaimav]

Most of my clothes I bought over here and they are basically all counterfeit stuff. I wear mostly cargo pants in jungle, except for worn out 5.11 tactical pants from the states. My boots are Timberlands and magnum Hi-tec hiking shoes which I bought from America as it is very difficult to find shoes my size over here. However in jungle I often just wear New Balance sneakers. I wear mostly long sleeved shirts for protection from sun and bugs. For cold weather I have a U.S. Navy parka and a reversible jacket made by the Hmong. In jungle I wear a boonie hat or straw cowboy hat if it is dry season, and for cold weather my girlfriend makes wool hats.

[SARKY]

If you are looking for civillian duds check out REI, LL Bean, Bass Pro Shop, Cheaper than dirt, and Sportsmans Guide. if you're looking for military stuff, check out Sportsmans Guide, Cheaper than dirt, Any military surplus store, and Brigade QuarterMasters.
One thing I have learned is don't be cheap on your boots, nothing is worse than treking 20 miles into the wilderness, your feet are now killing you and every step of that 20 miles back is excruceating. Don't skimp on your socks either, get synthetic or wool/synthetic blends. Cotton sucks up moisture and holds it.

[chiangmaimav]

I also bought a lot of equipment from Sportsmens Guide and Brigade Quartermasters when I was in US. Here I have alot of US military surplus stuff left over from Cobra Gold troops here. You will see many active Thai army as well as bandit and warlord armies on Burmese border wearing US Army camos and BDUs.

[SARKY]

The last time I was in Bangkok, the taxi driver took myself and one of my crew to this narrow staircase that led down to this basement. In the basement (which was huge) was every kind if firearm I had ever imagined including Tommy guns, garands and carbines all in cosmoline. Oh to have been able to bring some of those back.

[RBB]

Winter expedition clothing: Empire Canvas Works.

www.empirecanvasworks.com
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Good source for winter boots, Canadian military extreme cold weather mukluks. Shooting mitts: US military winter gauntlets. Winter underwear: Icebreaker merino wool.

[MCBushbaby]

Has anyone experienced the military's Mickey Mouse boot in winter? I'm a little skeptical of my Scarpa SL M3 if I step through a frozen bog. Completely waterproof rubber, wool insulation, air pocket insulation with adjustable valve (wow?!), and army-rated down to -60F. I can get one for $40, think it's worth it?

[edr730]

Yes, used them. Good boot, good price. they fit tight around the heel and walk good. Hard to put on quickly.

[Sourdough]

Has anyone experienced the military's Mickey Mouse boot in winter? I'm a little skeptical of my Scarpa SL M3 if I step through a frozen bog. Completely waterproof rubber, wool insulation, air pocket insulation with adjustable valve (wow?!), and army-rated down to -60F. I can get one for $40, think it's worth it?


We locally wear them everywhere, I never lace them up, it is a pain in the butt. The "VALVE" should be kept closed at all time when on the Earth. If it is open water will fill the space between the three layers of rubber and two of felt. The "Valve" is for airborne use only. And I assure you that such pain you have seldom experienced like having your foot crushed. If valve is not open when flying in a non-pressurized air machine. The locked air expands in the chambers, making the boot 5 sizes smaller. They run $100.- pair here and up to $150.- for near new ones. The black ones (Korea) are almost as good as the white ones.

Are they worth it....only if it is cold.....Then they are priceless. Does your feet sweat yep. Sweaty, damp and warm.

[hoosierarcher]

Looking for good quality Merino wool long johns. Anyone have any experience with this stuff? Looking for a good quality vendor.

RBB
The best merino wool ljs are Ulfrotte or as called in the USA Woolpower. They come in several weights and offer every piece of inner wear you need. Not cheap but worth every penny. Store with cedar blocks or moth balls because I've never seen a wool attract those friggin' moths like merino.

[Nativedude]

All I used to wear was wool. Lightweight in the summer and heavier weight in the winter. Although I do wear my silk long underwear, pretty much, all year long (unless it gets really hot). And I do have a couple of sets of lt. wt. & hvy. wt. merino wool long underwear, that I layer (depending on the temp.) over my silks.

Last fall I started to see bamboo clothing pop-up in stores. Gloves, hats, etc. After reading about it, bamboo is the way to go, especially in summer. It keeps you very cool in the summer and very warm in the winter. Now don't get me wrong, I still wear my wool and silks, but I purchased 2 - 20yd. bolts of bamboo fabric, to make shirts, bandanas, leggings, liners for my wool mitts, etc. I took the bamboo and lined my wool leggings with it. It made them incredibly warm! :D

I like natural materials (except for cotton). As the saying goes "cotton kills"! Once it gets wet, it stays wet. :eek:

Wouldn't waste my time on any of the synthetic clothing, i.e. polar fleece, polypropylene, etc., I've tried it. Junk, as far as, I'm concerned! ;)

For Merino wool check out www.firstlite.com. They have an excellent product.

[Beans]

Chasing my wife through the woods = nekked.

We will be watching another breaking news show about 'A Hairless Sasquatch spotted in the North Georgia Mountains. :eek:

More news at 10:00 AM

[Nativedude]

Here's my standard winter wear.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/SilkLongUnderwearTop.jpg
Silk Long Underwear Top
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/SilkLongUnderwearPants.jpg
Silk Long Underwear Bottoms
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolLongUnderwearPants.jpg
Merino Wool Long Underwear Bottoms www.firstlite.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolLongUnderwearTop01.jpg
Merino Wool Turtleneck Top www.firstlite.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolLongUnderwearTop02.jpg
Merino Wool Crewneck Top www.firstlite.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolShirt01.jpg
Woolrich Wool Shirt www.woolrich.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolSweater01.jpg
L.L. Bean Wool Sweater www.llbean.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolMitts.jpg
L.L. Bean Wool Glomitts www.llbean.com
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff58/Nativedude1/WoolBeret.jpg
Wool Beret

I also wear a wool capote and wool pants, but I couldn't take pics of them. Don't have them with me. There back at the cabin. :D

[Deer Sniper]

I dont know if anyone has mentioned these yet, but years ago I lived a while in northern Minnesota and the locals turned me on to Steger mukluks as cold weather foot ware intended for arctic conditions. They are incredibly warm and incredibly light. I pulled out the inner boot so you can see it.:)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj301/norinko/100_2979.jpg

[SnipAR-10]

We generally are wearing hipboots, you fold them down when you are moving, and pull them up to cross streams, or break the wind.

Depending on the camp food, having your boots up to break wind might result with the boots being rolled back down. :innocent: I know, its childish, but I couldn't resist.

[crashdive123]

Depending on the camp food, having your boots up to break wind might result with the boots being rolled back down. :innocent: I know, its childish, but I couldn't resist.

Not childish at all. Besides, it is a time tested survival technique used prior to crossing deeper water --- acts as floatation.

[Rick]

ND - I've had a pair of Glomitts for 2 years. Crazy warm and really handy.

[SnipAR-10]

Oh. About the glommits, those things are fantastic. I've bought three pairs in the past four years. Only reason its been three is that a friend will see them, and want a pair, so I've given two sets away. I assume they should last a long time should I be able to keep a pair long enough to see. Mine are actually branded "Remington", black fleece looking with thinsulate. They were bought at Wallyworld for around $10. Great since they're warmer(for me) than regular gloves, yet when you need dexterity for something they flop out of the way quickly. A small note though. If you're making snowballs or similar activity, the snow WILL get under the mitt part and get to your hand if you're not careful.

[NCO]

You guys have all sorts of hih tech things. When I go hunting let say, in autum I usually wer long underwear, old swiss bdu, some rubber boots, woll socks in them, leather gloves and a red hat so moose hunters won't shoot me. Thats it. If its cold I put on wollen shirt my grandmom made me few years back. Here rubber boots is a must as there is a lot of vipers around, but they can't bit through that guality Nokia rubber. (And no Nokia doesn't only make cellphones and car tyres, they aso make the best rubber boots there is.)

[finallyME]

BDU stands for "Battle Dress Uniform". The Newest one is the ACU which stands for "American Combat Uniform".

ACU stands for ARMY combat uniform.

And just for fun, DCU stands for Desert Combat Uniform. :smash:

[MilVetPatriot]

I agree, it does depend on what your looking for...
And I didn't read through all the comments to see if this was already suggested, But i order a lot of my things to include cloths and gear from that magazine called "The Sportsman's Guide". They have awesome deals.
Also try Cheaperthandirt.com
Quartermaster.com

[BAKWOODS]

ive just got a pair of bear grylls pants for my bday.love them but they were advertised with reinforced knees and bum area. i have no reinforced areas on mine a bit dissapointing but still a good pair of pants even if you dont like the show ,

[sgtdraino]

Anybody know anything about "Under-Armor"?:confused:

I like it, I think it's great for warm and hot weather. Not for use in cold weather. There's all kinds of off-brands these days, so it's not that expensive anymore. Mine has held up pretty well.



One thing I have learned is don't be cheap on your boots, nothing is worse than treking 20 miles into the wilderness, your feet are now killing you and every step of that 20 miles back is excruceating.

Yep! Boots are a pretty personal thing, the same one won't work for everybody. Find a boot that feels good even after you've walked a long time in it. Unfortunately, mostly a process of trial and error. My current favorites are ultralight gortex Bates with a side-zip. Perfect for my job, too.



Last fall I started to see bamboo clothing pop-up in stores. Gloves, hats, etc. After reading about it, bamboo is the way to go, especially in summer. It keeps you very cool in the summer and very warm in the winter. Now don't get me wrong, I still wear my wool and silks, but I purchased 2 - 20yd. bolts of bamboo fabric, to make shirts, bandanas, leggings, liners for my wool mitts, etc. I took the bamboo and lined my wool leggings with it. It made them incredibly warm! :D

Is this for real? Tell me more.

[Rick]

Native Dude is a fake, wannabe, troll that lied through his teeth. But only when his lips were moving or his fingers typing. The worm lives in Detroit.

[sgtdraino]

Aaah. I figured it was something like that, except that it didn't look like he'd been banned.

[Justin Case]

But, They DO make bamboo clothes, http://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en-US&q=bamboo+clothing+for+men

[crashdive123]

Aaah. I figured it was something like that, except that it didn't look like he'd been banned.

No reason to ban him. He is welcome back anytime to splain things. I really thought that many of his posts were very good, as long as he stayed away from the I live 240 miles from the nearest road and living off grid stuff.

[sgtdraino]

What gave him away?

[Rick]

1. Some Alaskans that questioned his posts.
2. His IP address.
3. Lack of consistency. You have to remember the first lie to keep telling the same one.
4. Some outlandish claims.

[southard]

armysurpluswarehouse.com is good website and they have a physical location as well in Idaho Falls, ID. I spend hours in there looking around. They have everything from nic nacs and novelties, to surplus items for personal and unit size groups and auto.

[Rick]

I will second that. I've done quite a bit of business with them lately and they are really good to work with. I wore leather boots the whole time I worked outside and I never found anything warmer than a set of goloshes over my climbing boots in winter. They have the military 3 buckle overshoe for sale for $10.95. They are first rate and a steal at that price. They also have a great price on Atwood 3/8 utility rope.

[postman]

Wool, wool, and more wool. Wool is the best and only fabric that I will wear spring, fall, and winter while in the outdoors. Most of my outdoor clothing comes from Goodwill, or the Salvation Army. I also have a Columbia wool hunting coat I got off ebay for 40 bucks. I've been an avid traditional bow hunter for almost 30 years and rarely if ever wear "scamoflauge". I call it that because in my opinion the only animal fooled by camo is us. Most of today's camo is way too busy, the patterns are so tight that when veiwed from a distance they just look like a dark blob. Plus most of the new hunting clothing is made of cotton which is pretty useless if it gets wet. I wear plaid most of the time when hunting, and it works well. The best "camo" is knowing how to play the wind, and knowing when to move.

[Rick]

That may be why you're chasin' and not catchin'.....just sayin'. I fellah has to maintain an air of mystique. Try a loin cloth.

[Kortoso]

I dont know if anyone has mentioned these yet, but years ago I lived a while in northern Minnesota and the locals turned me on to Steger mukluks as cold weather foot ware intended for arctic conditions. They are incredibly warm and incredibly light. I pulled out the inner boot so you can see it.:)


(clipped your pic)

Are you kidding me!!!? I love my Steger Mukluks! I have the Apaches, which don't come much higher than my ankles.
I gave up on BOOTS after I left the National Guard. I love feeling the ground under my feet (-minus the sharp things.)

[NavyVet_77]

Work & Cold Weather Clothing
I like stuff from Duluth Trading http://www.duluthtrading.com
Made for rough , tough work job stuff. Not bad for outdoors either.

[Highhawk1948]

Tractor Supply, Jeans and shirts. Hat and Boots from LCS, (local cowboy store).

[Tokwan]

You guys are so lucky to be living in the USA. I live in Malaysia, and sometimes we have to mail order whatever outdoor clothes that we want. So sometimes I mail order...but most of time I quietly sneak into an outdoor shop (without the wife's knowledge). I am into Columbia Attires and shoes, HiTech trekking boots, 5.11, Salomon and North Face. But I have to be very careful and buy only those that suits the climate here (Malaysia is right on the Equator) as the humidity here is awful.

[survivalmike]

I get most of my gear from Cabela's or similar stores. I also shop around a lot online to find the best prices.

[killersuraskill]

I buy all my equipment from equipnorshop.no they have solid gear! Would recommend it for everyone :)

[Adventure Wolf]

I get my gear from a hodgepodge of everywhere. There's an Army Surplus store out in Clayton that I have frequented since I was a kid (GI Joes). Surplus Sids over in Carrboro, NC is a good place if you catch it at the right time. It's not an army surplus store in the typical sense, it looks to me that it buys bulk lots from every type of liquidation and then parts them out. I also frequent the flea market at the NC Fairgrounds.

If I know exactly what I'm looking for, then I can always order from Amazon.

There's a Dicks Sporting Goods near where I grew up. I buy stuff there too.

[Pol090]

Most of my clothes for survival I buy in the Internet. There are many sites that offer a big range of what you want - shoes, jackets etc. Time to time I also go to thrift shops where you can also but some good quality clothes. What is amazing is that some of them look like new or are new!

[fdxsportsmarketing]

FDX was founded in 2013 and stemmed from my personal experiences as an enthusiastic cyclist on the lookout for good-quality and stylish clothing that was also reasonably priced.
To know I am a spammer just look at this post!

[crashdive123]

Not only that, but FDX is paying slave labor wages to some company in India to spam for them. I guess FDX is pro slavery.