Knife Making Score

[crashdive123]

I was introduced to a gentleman this evening that had quit making knives. I'm not sure why, neither was he. Anyway - I went with the anticipation of getting a Burr King Grinder. Well, out of all of the equipment in his shop, that was the one thing he was keeping. We may work something out in the future, but since I have a grinder - I'm OK for now.

Now for the score. We did this via barter (my favorite way to do business). I'll take some pictures tomorrow of exactly what I got, but here's a partial list....

Digital heat treating oven
Roll of stainless steel foil
Aluminum beams
Personalizer
Stencil material
Etching material
small oxy/acetelyn rig
brass, bronze, nickle silver pins and tubes
about 40 pounds of brass and bronze
aluminum
titanium
D2
A2
various stainless steels
handle materials

I'm probably forgetting a few things. I'll take an inventory and pictures tomorrow.

[Ken]

Without a doubt, you SCORED BIG TIME!!!

[Justin Case]

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[Winter]

Duuuuude........lucky sonofa'

[canid]

that is awesome.

[p moore]

Duuuuude........lucky sonofa'

My first thought was along these lines as well. Lucky Bass turd.:drool:

Can't wait to see your name etched on some of those new blades.

Congrats.

Paul

[crashdive123]

I was pretty pleased. He knew I was on a budget. He valued everything at $1150. I traded three handguns (SW9F, SW40V and Ruger P89). The guy helping load the truck that has been making knives a long time said - "You understand that the titanium and other metals are worth well over $1000 don't you?" I told him I did now. I'm tinking titanium dive knives might be in order.

[Erratus Animus]

Woot Hammer-in at crashes house!!!!!! Hey buddy um pal I can show you how to use that A2 if you need some help :innocent:

[crashdive123]

It will feel odd not making a knife from a rusty saw blade or a rusty file.

[Winter]

It will feel odd not making a knife from a rusty saw blade or a rusty file.


Bah, when making knives out of junk the end result is always an improvement.
:art:

[Camp10]

Man, I'm both happy for you and pi$$ed at the same time!!:sneaky2: That is a great score Crash!! Couldnt have landed in a better knifemakers shop!! Cant wait to see what you can make from it!

[Rick]

I don't even make knives and that's a great score. Lucky you still had some guns left after all of the others and ammo had been stolen.

[Batch]

I don't even make knives and that's a great score. Lucky you still had some guns left after all of the others and ammo had been stolen.

Hey, when you got a titanium long pig sticker, who needs hand guns? :innocent:

Great score Crash! Look forward to seeing some of your new projects.

[crashdive123]

I unloaded the truck this morning. Here's the stuff. Just gotta figure out where to fit it.

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[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Wow! Looks like that will keep you busy for a while!

[Rick]

I just love a problem like that. Too many toys and not enough room. You build more room then you have to have more toys. It's a vicious, wonderful cycle.

[panch0]

WOW You got the score of a lifetime! Tell me more about the heat treat oven. You sir must have been a very good boy! How much will you take for the aluminume plate? Hehehehe....

[crashdive123]

The oven will handle (I think) 13.5" pieces and has an Orton Autofire Express controller.

[panch0]

Awesome! I haven't felt jealous in a while but today I did a weeeee bit. Hehehe.... Congrats! Couldn't of happened to a nicer guy.

[Winter]

Those burls are sick.

What are they?

[crashdive123]

Those burls are sick.

What are they?

He wasn't sure (told me to make something up). The handle material that he had was amazing. He had large amounts stabalized giraffe leg bone, petrified mastadon, horns, antlers, and on, and on. Some of the stuff he had goes for about $100 an inch on todays market. I'm begining to understand more and more why some knives cost so much.

[Rick]

has an Orton Autofire Express controller

I was going to say that. No, really, I was. Seriously.

[kyratshooter]

Crash, I am not going to talk to you any more!

I am going to my room, where I will hold my breath until I pass out, then I will pout for the rest of the day.

[Rick]

stabalized giraffe leg bone

It's not right to just take the leg bone and let them go. That's wrong.

http://ourlives-at-windandsea.info/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_82401/2Wildcamp$2C~Giraffe~Thornicroft$27s.jpg

[crashdive123]

Rick - They only use the front legs for knives. The back legs are reserved for shoes.

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[Aurelius95]

Crash, I'm very happy for you! I know I should be jealous, but if I had all of that knife making gear, it'd be like giving a Stradivarius to a gorilla.

Congrats on your score!

[crashdive123]

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[LowKey]

you 2 guys set that up for the photo of the gorilla, right?

Crash, what do you use the aluminum beams for?
And have you ever tried Cor-Ten steel? or are it's properties not good for knives.

I don't make knives. Just curious.

[crashdive123]

I have not tried (or really know anything about) that type of steel. The aluminum beams - I guess they're really large peices of aluminum angle are used to air quench steel. Steels that are air quenched are heated inside a stainless steel foil envelope (made individualy from a roll of it). When removed from the oven they are clamped int the aluminum, which cools (quenches) it very quickly and keeps it from warpping.

[LowKey]

We use aluminum in the shop for a lot of the structural framing we build. I just didn't know how it could be used for knife-making being as soft as it is.
Thanks.

[oldtrap59]

Congrats on the SCORE Crash. Looks to be some good makuns for some of those neat projects that come out of your shop. Got to tell ya, I always enjoy the pics.

oldtrap

btw I hope ya don't give up on the knives made out of the old saws. They have so much character. Something I really like in a knife.

[welderguy]

wow that is a super score, congrats and have fun with your new toys.

[JCavSD]

I was introduced to a gentleman this evening that had quit making knives. I'm not sure why, neither was he. Anyway - I went with the anticipation of getting a Burr King Grinder. Well, out of all of the equipment in his shop, that was the one thing he was keeping. We may work something out in the future, but since I have a grinder - I'm OK for now.

Now for the score. We did this via barter (my favorite way to do business). I'll take some pictures tomorrow of exactly what I got, but here's a partial list....

Digital heat treating oven
Roll of stainless steel foil
Aluminum beams
Personalizer
Stencil material
Etching material
small oxy/acetelyn rig
brass, bronze, nickle silver pins and tubes
about 40 pounds of brass and bronze
aluminum
titanium
D2
A2
various stainless steels
handle materials

I'm probably forgetting a few things. I'll take an inventory and pictures tomorrow.

Bigtime score...but not getting the Burr King must have been a little painful. Check out the Coote Grinders, I'm happy with mine.

[crashdive123]

Congrats on the SCORE Crash. Looks to be some good makuns for some of those neat projects that come out of your shop. Got to tell ya, I always enjoy the pics.

oldtrap

btw I hope ya don't give up on the knives made out of the old saws. They have so much character. Something I really like in a knife.

I haven't started cutting up the five footers I've got, so I think the saw blades will have a heavy influence for a long time.

[crashdive123]

Bigtime score...but not getting the Burr King must have been a little painful. Check out the Coote Grinders, I'm happy with mine.

I've got a Grizzly that is working fine. I'd really like a KMG, but at 6k with the attatchments I want, that ain't gonna happen. Camp10 post a build that he did, and down the road I'll probably build one. I kind of collect parts I might need as I see them at flea markets, yard sales, etc.

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

Being that Lucky, I sure hope you went ahead and bought a lottery ticket Too!!! Just an awesome haul Crash!! That Burl is Tee totally beautiful. Looks "Exhibition" Grade to me. Might be wrong, But don't think so. You might want to reserve that for your "Top End" knives.

To answer another post, Aluminum could be used in a pommel(Butt end) where you don't want a lot of weight(followed by something not so soft), or as "Spacer" material in a composite handle. Same with the brass.... any of it really can be used that way.

[crashdive123]

That burl sell for $50 a set at a local (Orlando) shop. It's gonna be for purdy knives. I'm going to call him tomorrow and see what he'll take for some other materials.

[crashdive123]

I spent some time "re-organizing" the shop and putting in a few new shelves. I think I have room for a few more things. Woot!!!! I still need to make covers for all of the equipment to keep the grind dust out of it.

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[Swamprat1958]

I unloaded the truck this morning. Here's the stuff. Just gotta figure out where to fit it.

If you can't figure out where to put it, Errattus Animus and I can!!! We will be glad to keep it here in Louisiana.

[crashdive123]

If you can't figure out where to put it, Errattus Animus and I can!!! We will be glad to keep it here in Louisiana.

Too late. See post #38.:D

[Swamprat1958]

Too late. See post #38.:D

As usual "A day late and a dollar short".

[Camp10]

Crash, that is one well organized shop! If your ever in the area, I'd love to have you over to clean and organize my shop for me!:innocent: I'd be happy to share some of the burls I've gathered in trade.

[crashdive123]

Crash, that is one well organized shop! If your ever in the area, I'd love to have you over to clean and organize my shop for me!:innocent: I'd be happy to share some of the burls I've gathered in trade.

It would be my honor and pleasure to clean and organize your shop. The problem is that after doing so, nothing is where is was supposed to be.:innocent:

[Camp10]

It would be my honor and pleasure to clean and organize your shop. The problem is that after doing so, nothing is where is was supposed to be.:innocent:

As long as it isnt all in the back of your truck I'll probably make out okay!:)

[canid]

I spent some time "re-organizing" the shop and putting in a few new shelves. I think I have room for a few more things. Woot!!!! I still need to make covers for all of the equipment to keep the grind dust out of it.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Knife%20Making/Shop001.jpg

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you missed a spot. better do it over from the start.

nice workshop. i haven't got 1/4 that amount of stuff in mine and it isn't half as organized.

[crashdive123]

I've still got a little rearranging to do. Storing Coleman fuel, MAP gas and propane directly above the heat treat oven don't seem right. Don't know why, but it just don't seem right.

[Rick]

And in other news......

NASA has denied they had any connection with the launch earlier today from Jacksonville, Fla. Spokesman for NASA, U.P. Anaway said, "We have no idea what it was. But it was something fast."

[canid]

I've still got a little rearranging to do. Storing Coleman fuel, MAP gas and propane directly above the heat treat oven don't seem right. Don't know why, but it just don't seem right.

it's because you forgot to punch some 'safety holes' in the containers. you know, to vent any pressure that might build up.

[Rick]

Now that right there is funny I don't care who you are. God bless them little tree dwellers in Indonesia.

[canid]

i only just noticed the pictures of the burl scales. that is insanely gorgeous. i can't wait to see what you make with them.

[oldtrap59]

Crash. The wife just saw the pics of your shop. Man neat guys like you sure do make it tough on guys like me. Pics of the knives man pics of the knives. Not the neat as a pin shop. :>)

oldtrap

[Camp10]

Crash, I noticed in one of the pics the felt covered contact wheel that you did a show and tell with a while back on here...how did it work out? I dont remember seeing a knife made with that finish on it.

[crashdive123]

Crash, I noticed in one of the pics the felt covered contact wheel that you did a show and tell with a while back on here...how did it work out? I dont remember seeing a knife made with that finish on it.

I haven't used it yet. The contact wheels fit so tightly on the motor shaft that I have to remove some metal for the wheels so they slide on and off easier. The other issue with the soft wheel is that I put the 1/4" felt on an 8" contact wheel. I'm using a 10" wheel for my hollow grinds, so I should be using a 10" wheel - mill off 1/4" and then add the felt. I'll let you know.

[crashdive123]

I should add - the guy that showed me how to use a soft wheel does no hand sanding and you cannot find a single grinder mark on his blades. *sigh* Maybe some day.

[kyratshooter]

Come on Crash, a perfect knife is like a brand new pickup truck. It's almost a shame to scuff them up but that is what you bought them for. It just makes really using them more stressful.

Did you not realize that a clean shop is the first sign of a warped mind!! You never, never ever show a pic of a clean and organized shop. It is traumatizing to the rest of us.

How do you ever find anything? And all that running back and forth putting things away and taking them from exactly where they belong. So much wasted energy when it could all be in a big pile right where you need it!

:online2long:

[panch0]

Come on Crash, a perfect knife is like a brand new pickup truck. It's almost a shame to scuff them up but that is what you bought them for. It just makes really using them more stressful.

Did you not realize that a clean shop is the first sign of a warped mind!! You never, never ever show a pic of a clean and organized shop. It is traumatizing to the rest of us.

How do you ever find anything? And all that running back and forth putting things away and taking them from exactly where they belong. So much wasted energy when it could all be in a big pile right where you need it!

:online2long:

The wisest words ever written! I need to make this into a T Shirt!!

[crashdive123]

Yeah, but after Friday's haul, I couldn't find a place to stand.

Picked up some handle material today. I'll snap a pic.

[crashdive123]

OK - now I'm through for a while. It must be time to make some knives. These are in addition to what I picked up Friday. Some of the materials will be used way down the line, as my skills improve.

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[Rick]

Hokey Smokes, Crash. There's some beautiful scales waiting to jump out of some of that material.

[panch0]

WOW!!! Dude! That is great stuff there. I can't wait to see what you make with those tusks

[Rick]

I gotta ask. What are the plates? They look like armadillo.

[crashdive123]

WOW!!! Dude! That is great stuff there. I can't wait to see what you make with those tusks

It'll probably be a while before I tackle those. Gotta practice some stick tangs. stacking and pinning. I got a pretty good deal on those, but warthog tusks are kind of pricey if I mess one up.

[crashdive123]

I gotta ask. What are the plates? They look like armadillo.

You nailed it.

[Rick]

Oh, that's savage. You can make scales out of that? That will look really barbarian I think. A large knife with armadillo scales would look really good. Can't say much about the naked armadillo running around but the knife will look good.

[Rick]

Sorry but I had to go find one to see what it looks like.

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