Knife/Survival Knife Info.

[Jason_Montana]

I am very fond of my Green River knife for a basic utility knife. I find leathermen (multi-tools) to be overkill for a survival tool in the kind of survival situations I get myself into. But, I do use them as a general camp tool when I am guiding. The pliers I use the most. I have never had a multi-tool that I haven't broken at least one of the tools on. THat is why I like the tradional Green River knife, you can use it for all kinds of stuff it was never designed to do, and it is damn near impossible to break. It makes for a good skinning knife (although there are defiently much better) you can use it to split wood, the list goes on and on....just a great basic item!

[Blood Groove]

Oh man that's the real thing! I have a Kukri, but it's made by Ka-bar, and it's less traditional.

[Loftyjr]

Recently I purchased a knife from Maxam. I haven't gotten it yet, so I'm still waiting for it. Here's the knife:
http://www.ckbproducts.com/product_info.php/cPath/246_258/products_id/1327
Great website btw.

Anywho, I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were. Good knife? Bad knife?

While we're on the subject, I also would like to know what you all look for in a good knife.

I like it but me i like black knifes

[Rick]

What does the color have to do with the quality?

[klkak]

What does the color have to do with the quality?

"""Nothing""" However, I like shiney knives. They are easier to find if you lay it down. But hey I'm not a Ninja Assasian or a Tacticle Tom who sneaks around in the dark and needs a knife that dont reflect.:D

[Alpine_Sapper]

That's what they make black 550 cord for. Has to match the ninja pajamas, ya know. Keeps you from loosing the knife, shiny or black.

[klkak]

I have dummy cords on alot of the stuff I carry, however it is a pain alot of times to use a knife that is tied to your belt.

[Ole WV Coot]

If that link is right you ain't gonna get much for under $10. Go buy an Old Hickory just about anywhere under $10 and you will get a much better knife. If you can't make a sheath out of leather wrap the blade with cardboard and wrap with duct tape. That's my opinion only.

[carpet_ninja]

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=182&lang=E

i might get one for messing around, how would it be for making small things out of wood?

[Rick]

Any backup knife is good. I'm not especially keen on the saw blade but that's just my opinion. Victorinox makes good knives.

[Tony uk]

Any backup knife is good. I'm not especially keen on the saw blade but that's just my opinion. Victorinox makes good knives.

I have their Spartan model, Exellent tool :)

[carpet_ninja]

actually ive been thinking, what would be a good main knife, nothing to dangerous, holds an edge well and has the best sized blade for doing general survivaly stuff

[crashdive123]

actually ive been thinking, what would be a good main knife, nothing to dangerous, holds an edge well and has the best sized blade for doing general survivaly stuff

Goodness! What are you trying to do, start a food fight?:D:D:eek::D Take a look through this thread and you'll see a huge selection to choose from. Everybody has their opinion about knives. Some of the members have done a real nice job of comparing materials and styles. Just read away.......although you will probably get a few suggestions.

[carpet_ninja]

thanks, ill have a look around

[carpet_ninja]

whats the sog seal pup elite like for making things

[crashdive123]

It's a good knife IMO but probably not that great for making a locomotive engine.:D What are you trying to make.

[dragonchi]

Hey Larry...Hello from a fellow Canuck...Nope your not weird I enjoy/love to have a wide selection of knives with me at any one time....for various reasons.
My friends do not get it but that is okay....

[carpet_ninja]

wooden things, and wilderness survivaly stuff

[Arkansas_Ranger]

That's a knife.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yTUr0yQJBOA

I don't know why it had subtitles...

[Icemancometh]

Ontario Rat-3 makes a great backup knife. Won't be taking down a tree with it, but it is perfect for woodcraft and the like.

[dragonjimm]

now for my two cents. the best knife for survival is the one you have with you when you need it ...cant remember where i heard that but it holds some truth.

i carry a leatherman wave ever where i can. A cold steel thrower makes a good knife cheap and stout. as does a cold steel bushman. several moras and spec plus Ontarios current big knife is a Ontario spec plus quartermaster. a 18 inch machete and a gerber bush hokk. while i prefer small fixed blade knifes over folders i manageto still pack a queen two blade trapper,a large case sod buster along with a old case mako and a 60's camillus scout folder from time to time.

[julian]

I've been struggling with choosing between a rat-5 and rat-7 knife (1095 and serrated). The only reason I've been considering the bigger 7 is because I always aim for simplicity and would like to avoid carrying a hatchet or saw (when I'm backpacking/wandering in the woods/etc) if at all possible. Any opinions on which may be a better choice for me? Also, I'd love to go D2, but I've heard it's not a good idea for a blade over 5" that may see rough use.

Thanks for any opinions you all care to offer.
-Julian

[crashdive123]

Julian - it really boils down to personal preference and what you are comfortable with. For me, I do not like to rely on just one knife when wandering about. Just like with fire starting methods, I like to carry several back ups. There is a statement (not mine) that I agree with - to a point. A large knife can do everything a small knife can do, but a small knife can't do everything a large knife can do.

[Rick]

Forget the serrations for cutting. A small backpacking saw will do far more than a serrated knife in far less the amount of time. Something like the Gerber backpacking saw is great. I've started carrying one with me and it has made a huge difference.

[julian]

Thanks for the info guys.
Rick: That's a good point about the serrated blade. If I need a serrated blade, I carry a little gerber folder with a serrated edge on it so I think I'm going to end up going for the non-serrated rat-7 with 1095 steel.
The rat-5 looks really good too, but I think that extra blade length will come in handy for splitting firewood. Not planning on splitting any big logs, but I like the idea of having a little more exposed steel to pound so I'm not putting too much stress on the tip. If any of you see in flaws in my logic, please let me know! I'm likely going to be ordering one after I come back from some backcountry camping this weekend.

-Julian

[Rick]

As Crash would say, "If it works for you, it works for me."

[lastboyscout]

Cold .
Steel makes several models and they are great. coldsteel.com
Their are only three problems with the traditional Kukri.
Blade,handle and sheath.
Most handals are small and slick.
Blades are not of the best metal and rust easy.
The sheath is poor leather and will rot and does not carry well.
But in spite of that they work great. They have been taken into the modern age by some makers.

I use a Cold Steel light kukri and love it. I Glued a leatherman tool and a sharpening rod pouch onto the sheath.

[Rick]

lastboyscout - A lot of us have converted ours and there are a number of posts on it. You can view the conversion at:

http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Ghurka/Khukri%20Modification.htm

[RBB]

A friend picked up the middle blade in the photo below from a pawn shop near where a Ghurka regiment was stationed in England. He sold it to me for $8.00. It has a wonderful balance and exceptional workmanship. I'm sorry the photo is not a close up, as the Kukri is a work of art. It has been dated to the 1700s.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/pjjgirard/Tools%20and%20Camping%20Gear/IMG_7990.jpg

[crashdive123]

The M40 site is what I've used to modify mine.
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Kukri003.jpg

[Beowulf65]

RBB,
Wanna sell the top long knife?
The last knife is actually a plug bayonet but works great for a survival knife, all look old but in good shape and would fetch a great price but I'd hang onto them (except for selling me the top one:D

[Ameriborn]

I know how everyone loves the Leatherman multi-tools. (I do myself) However, I was wondering if anyone has ever used any of the knives? I am looking to getting one of the hunting knives, however I wasn't sure if it was worth it.

has anyone ever used any of the hunting knives? They are listed on the site, if you don't know what I am talking about. Please let me know, thanks.

[crashdive123]

Welcome to the forum Ameriborn - How about heading over to the introduction section and tell us a bit about yourself. You can find it here http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14

[NS0201]

I ain't no marine or survivalist but a 13 year old hunter/outdoorsman. I carry a leather all the time and of course I use it as a backup in the woods with my primary knife the survival knife I will be getting.

[Rick]

Oh, man. What is it I say here? Oh, yeah.

As Crash would say, "If it works for you, it works for me."

[lastboyscout]

cool guys I have not scene that mod. I am not that handy so would never do that on my own. But more power to you guys. Love to see what others did to their gear. I carried mine in South Africa for over a month and loved it.

Thanks for the welcome here.
I am an FNG here.

[Rick]

Here's a couple that I did.

[NS0201]

I use my leatherman all the time when camping and everything but for long hikes I keep my survival knife as primary and the leathermen as backup:)

For survival I dont own one but want to buy this one:

I used to use a pocket knife but i cased it as it's my grandfathers...

[Rick]

Depends on the job.

[crashdive123]

What knife do I prefer? Gosh, so many to choose from. Hmmmm. I'll give it some thought.

[crashdive123]

Nice job. What did you use to cover the sheaths (under the para cord)? Mine is an old duffle bag then coated with spray on plastisol.

[Rick]

I made the sheaths out of 1/4 inch plywood and routed about 1/16 out of both sides to fit the blades, leaving a drain hole in the bottom. I painted the plywood with waterproof paint in a dark green and covered the outside with Cordura fabric from:

http://www.americanhomeandhabitat.com/products/1000%20%20denier%20cordura%20plus%20fabric%20FCP10 0.htm

I think that is the moss color if I remember correctly.

I sewed one piece of cloth, inside out, to make the cover. So there is one seam running down one edge of the scabbard.

I used Chicago screws to hold everything together and did glue the fabric in a couple of spots.

On the front and back I doubled a strip of fabric and sewed a couple of loops to fit Alice clips. That's what holds the cases on and what I use to attach the knife to my pack.

[Rick]

Looking at the colors on that site, it was probably celery. Been a while. I still have some of the material tucked away.

[Jericho117]

Yeah it depends on the job. For walking around I carry a small swiss army knife for any job. But in the woods you need something tougher, and I carry my Buck knife. I prefer fixed blades with some serrated edge

[Ole WV Coot]

Whatever I have at the time. I generally make my own, can't get what I like without paying a small fortune.

[Rick]

Jericho - I thought you were a primitive weapons guy. You don't carry knapped knives?

[Jericho117]

No im not too primitive, only to a certain point. I tried making a flint knife, I ordered about 3 pounds of heat treated flint on 3riversarchery.com, but I failed to get a perfect sharp edge. So I use modern knives. But I do make hunting tools, fish hooks, and all sorts of other things the primitive way. I mean I have to have some sense of modern life or I would be consisdered an outcast.

[Beowulf65]

Nice work Twinkie.

[Rick]

You might be anyway with that signature.:D

[Sunshine]

I love my SAK "Explorer". I find that I use the large blade on it more than any other blade I own.

I also have a nice Finnish knife that a friend gave me for my birthday. I use it for bigger jobs.

[Jericho117]

that used to be my motto for xbox live but now its "bob saggat". I guess your right i am an outcast.

[Beowulf65]

I prefer a good knife but this has been covered sooooooooooooooo much I'll let you read it elsewhere.

[crehberg]

I prefer a pocket knife.....can't do as much damage with it. :)

[Gray Wolf]

I prefer a sharp knife that holds an edge well and is easy to sharpen.....

[Beowulf65]

One that cuts things.

[trax]

Depends on my wardrobe. I try to act toward knives the way a lot of women do with their shoes, one for whatever outfit I happen to have on. Since about 95% of the time that involves jeans or khakis, it ain't that tough, but one should maintain a fashion sense. Takes me a longer time to get ready when I'm leaving the house in the morning because I'll narrow it down to about a half dozen, but then it's like ....decisions decisions....what to do...

[Gray Wolf]

One that cuts things.

Gees Beo, what more do you want :rolleyes:

Oh the future ain't what it used to be........ :D

[Beowulf65]

Good sharp knife... deep forested mountains... cabin in said mountains... ahhh life would be good.

[Beowulf65]

God I almost had that dream with a job in Montana. Blaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Women first the apple and now where I live.

[NS0201]

`I mean for general everyday use.

[Beowulf65]

Actually I don't use a 14 inch knife, the standard blade I use is about eight inches inches in length. But its an older style with a wood handle. No saw back or serated edges, just a plain knife made to handle everyday camp chores.
Wood handle wire wrapped, holds a great edge.

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7482/myknifely9.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myknifely9.jpg)

[dragonjimm]

every day use is my leatherman wave or a ryan plan b or a mora or a crkt kiss tanto
or a buck folder or a queen two blade depends on what i pick up that morning

@beo...i've looked at that knife is this one you own and carry and would you recommend it to any one? inquiring minds need to know.

[RangerXanatos]

Everyday use for me is a Bryd CaraCara or a KaBar Dozier.
In the woods, it's a HI Khukuri or a Mora...

[NS0201]

This is the knife I want to buy...http://budk.com/sw-combat-survival/p/17%20SWHRTDR/c/6065/

[Bdog]

Seal pup Elite.

[1stcavmp77]

since you already have a multi-tool then you've got a pocket knife right there. what i prefer for a survival knife is a fixed blade knife with a minimum of a 4 inch blade (preferably bigger) something that can do at the minimum some chopping so that you can use it to build a shelter and also some carving to make tent stakes or traps and snares. everything i've heard about kukri knives for survival has said that they are outstanding and i am planning on getting one myself. coldsteel makes one for about $20.00 so it wont break the bank. also if you want to see a vid review of some different multitools from sog and gerber go to youtube and look up wildernessoutfittersarchery. that guy has a lot of great info about wilderness survival and does great product reviews. semper peradus

[1stcavmp77]

from everything i hear and the videos i've seen you cant go wrong with a tom brown tracker knife or a good kukri knife. both great for chopping and carving which is what you need to build a decent shelter or snares and traps. you really should check out this guys videos wildernessoutfittersarchery.com he's a primitive skill instructor and avid bowhunter plus he's a former amry ranger.

[Sarge47]

Gee...another "Newbie" hits us with the "knife" question!:rolleyes: Well, NS, I've answered that question enough. Go check out the "sticky" on "Survival/Survival Knives.":cool:

Beo: (Crocodile Dundee voice) "Now that's a knoif, mate!":D

[crashdive123]

I don't know Sarge - it gives me an opportunity to show of my Rambo Super Deer Slayer Delux with Laser/Holo Sight/Scope/Tac Light. I mean, how can you go wrong with a set-up like this.

[Rick]

Man! I have a Bear Gryllis knife just like that! I got a great deal on it. Only $12,000.00!

[sobeit]

lastboyscout - A lot of us have converted ours and there are a number of posts on it. You can view the conversion at:

http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Ghurka/Khukri%20Modification.htm

I have a cold steal and an old Ghurka Khukri and after seeing that conversion I want to do one myself

[NS0201]

Gee...another "Newbie" hits us with the "knife" question!:rolleyes: Well, NS, I've answered that question enough. Go check out the "sticky" on "Survival/Survival Knives.":cool:

Beo: (Crocodile Dundee voice) "Now that's a knoif, mate!":D

Sorry man I just had to ask... And I guess it's what all newbies ask. But everyone's got to start somewhere

[crashdive123]

NS - no worries. The question does come up alot. Check out this thread. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1297

[Chicago Dan]

My preferred, as in favorite is a 6in fixed blade(full tang, leather wrap, solid butt). I don't know the manufacture because its not stamped but it is at least 60 years old. I guess part of the reason it is my favorite is because it was one of my fathers hunting knifes but also because it's just a darn good knife.

[Blood Groove]

Well whenever I go out anywhere I take my Gerber EVO with me. I mean there's nothing amazing about it, but it's all metal, which I like the feel of, it's light, sharp, fold out nice and fast, but it doesn't come out when I don't want it to, and it doesn't attract a lot of attention. Which is really nice today where everywhere you go people are paranoid about anything sharp. But my real favorite is my USMC Ka-bar. The handle's very darkened from use, and (Very regrettably) the tip was broken, and is not what it used to be. But it's still holding strong. I sharpened the false edge on the back of the blade too. It's pretty sharp, but since I did it myself it's far from professional.

[Blood Groove]

Crash Dive, what's the name of the real knife under all that crazy hardware up there? I don't recognize it.

[crashdive123]

Crash Dive, what's the name of the real knife under all that crazy hardware up there? I don't recognize it.

Some POS "survival knife" that I happened to pick up at a gun show. The guy selling them thought I was really interested in it (I wasn't - just curious). I think it had a price tag of $30 or $40 on it. When I told the guy that I would never own a knife like that - he said make me an offer - I jokingly say $5. So there I was, the proud new owner of a "survival knife". I doubt this will ever see the woods (learned not to say never at that gun show).

[Sarge47]

Durn your hide, Crash; now every "Know nothing Newbie" is gonna want one of them toys! :rolleyes: (psst: Is that knife a Ka-bar model?)

Blood Grove: check out these Blogs of mine...1st: Pop Quiz, Part 2; and "For the Newbies, Part 2. Next I just re-posted those two Survival stories there so you can read those as well. Now, here's the thing. I don't see some nice, cool-looking knife & immediately think: "Ooooh! Ahhhh! (way over-emphasizing, patronizing, condenscending tone) That's a great knife for SUR-VIVE-ALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Instead I choose a knife for different chores, like chopping, cutting, witiling, etc.. The truth is that in any real Wilderness Survival situation, any knife is better than no knife at all. I pick knives that have the best quality for what I can afford and would never pay over $120 for one. Others might/will, but that's their choice. I used to own the USMC Ka-Bar but recently was reunited with a Son I hadn't seen since he was 4 yrs. old who'd served in the Marines during the Gulf WAR; so I made a present of it for him. Read through all the posts & Blogs & you'll see what I've liked in the past.:cool:

[Ameriborn]

Hey, does this knife look like it would be a good knife to you guys? Ebay Auction (http://cgi.ebay.com/LEATHERMAN-STEENS-S30V-HUNTING-KNIFE-IN-GIFT-TIN-NEW_W0QQitemZ280233776327QQihZ018QQcategoryZ66824Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I am thinking about getting something like it. Just wondering your opinions.

[dragonjimm]

@ameriborn...yes and no....yes i think it would for a variety of reasons...no it has too many moving parts and the sheath is little skimpy makes it to easy to lose you're knife if the strap fails.

[Ameriborn]

It wouldn't be my main knife. (Which is a buck knife) However, I see what you mean on the parts thing. The good thing is they are all attached to it. Except the sharpener, but I pry wouldn't use the one it comes with anyway.

I am still not sure I am going to get it. However, I do see what you mean about the sheath. Hmm..

[dragonjimm]

those cold steel machetes are not worth the money i had one and warped the thing first day out.. best bet for a kukri is a military issue or go with a ontario 12 inch machete


heres the one i warped
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8272/warpib5.jpg

[crashdive123]

dragonjimm - just use it for cutting around corners.:D

[Seppo Karhu]

I too plan to do the M4040 conversion on mine.

Got two small corn bread loaf pans from W*mart that make perfect containers for the kit itself.

The Ghurka is the next best thing to a swedish brush axe for cutting small shrubs, boughs and trees for a shelter.

[Blood Groove]

I'll check those out. About knives though, I don't buy the cool-looking ones or the cheap ones. I always do tons or research on them before I buy them, and like you, I have different knives for different jobs. I use a Ka-BAr Kukri for the heavy chopping, a USMC ka-bar for all purpose camp knife, or whatever, and I got a Mora S-1 for the little jobs. Those are just my favorites, but I have many more. I've never bought a knife for over 100$ though. I'll be sure to look at those blogs they sound interesting.

[Blood Groove]

Some POS "survival knife" that I happened to pick up at a gun show. The guy selling them thought I was really interested in it (I wasn't - just curious). I think it had a price tag of $30 or $40 on it. When I told the guy that I would never own a knife like that - he said make me an offer - I jokingly say $5. So there I was, the proud new owner of a "survival knife". I doubt this will ever see the woods (learned not to say never at that gun show).

Wow I can't believe that you got that knife for only 5$! But that's probably what it was worth in the first place, and he was trying to rip someone of though. I can't stand those cheap chinese survival knives.

[dragonjimm]

oh their good for shims or wedges. some of them will do for chisel if you have a big enough hammer:D

[Bdog]

Man! I have a Bear Gryllis knife just like that! I got a great deal on it. Only $12,000.00!

No No No a butter knife he used to smear jelly on a roll while staying at a resort while filming.

[Rick]

Hey, I didn't say he used it. He just put his name on it and sold it for mega bucks. I'm still waiting for the tell tale signs that the knives he uses on the show are actually rubber knives.

[Sarge47]

I'll check those out. About knives though, I don't buy the cool-looking ones or the cheap ones. I always do tons or research on them before I buy them, and like you, I have different knives for different jobs. I use a Ka-BAr Kukri for the heavy chopping, a USMC ka-bar for all purpose camp knife, or whatever, and I got a Mora S-1 for the little jobs. Those are just my favorites, but I have many more. I've never bought a knife for over 100$ though. I'll be sure to look at those blogs they sound interesting.
Your knife choices are wise ones; those are quality knives, IMHO. I've had my eye on the Ka-Bar Kukri for awhile now. I miss my USMC Ka-Bar but this was my 1st son & I'm just so da*ned proud of him! Anyway, I also own the Ka-Bar "Bull-Dozier", which is my favorite "long-blade" knife for the moment. Also own the Buck "General" which is a bit longer than the "Special".

BTW, the only knives, at this time, that I'd pay the maximum amount I mentioned would be either of two of Ontario's knives: The RAT-7 in D-2 steel, &/or the RTAC II with it's 10 inch blade.(shrug):cool:

[crashdive123]

If you've got any gun or knife shows in your area you might be able to find an old K Bar. Had one in town last week end. Saturday picked up a few "experienced" knives and some blanks. Thought some more and went back Sunday. Ended up with eleven in total - one of em is an ooooold smaller K-Bar with a 4" blade - needs some work, but for $4 couldn't pass it up.

[FVR]

I'm not picky, Kabars, Caveman Kabars, longhunters, bowies, a piece of chert, a bamboo split, you get the idea.

Honestly, what do you really need a knife for, other than confidence?

Given the choice of a knife or a wool blanket, wool blanket hands down.

[Blood Groove]

Your knife choices are wise ones; those are quality knives, IMHO. I've had my eye on the Ka-Bar Kukri for awhile now. I miss my USMC Ka-Bar but this was my 1st son & I'm just so da*ned proud of him! Anyway, I also own the Ka-Bar "Bull-Dozier", which is my favorite "long-blade" knife for the moment. Also own the Buck "General" which is a bit longer than the "Special".

BTW, the only knives, at this time, that I'd pay the maximum amount I mentioned would be either of two of Ontario's knives: The RAT-7 in D-2 steel, &/or the RTAC II with it's 10 inch blade.(shrug):cool:

The Ka-bar Kukri is a truly great knife, if you can call it that, It's great for use as a machete. The design and weight of the blade make it perfect for heavy hacking. I've used it to cut down 6 inch diameter trees, and my arm doesn't get tired at all. You you can basically use your wrist to do all the cutting. PLus this thing makes even the most awkward cutting angles. I've had to cut a small branch with the knife upside down, and with a backhand type swing, but it cut perfectly. And it stays very sharp. It's not too expensive either. Also, if you need it to clear brush, it does that the best. It's so easy to clear trails, or camping areas. I was also looking at an Ontario RAT knife, but they're out of my price range. I've read about the Fallkniven F-1, and that really looks good, but again it's out of my price range. Apperently it's the sweedish airforce survival knife.

[Blood Groove]

If you've got any gun or knife shows in your area you might be able to find an old K Bar. Had one in town last week end. Saturday picked up a few "experienced" knives and some blanks. Thought some more and went back Sunday. Ended up with eleven in total - one of em is an ooooold smaller K-Bar with a 4" blade - needs some work, but for $4 couldn't pass it up.

Holy cow! I'd give anything to get that Ka-bar!! I'm pretty sure that it's the Ka-bar Commando, a really old ka-bar, and they stopped making it a while ago. I'm not sure how much that knife is really worth, but 4$ sounds like the steal of the century. Man what's with you and great prices at gunshows!?

[sobeit]

For every day carry I have one of the following on me, a Bench Made nimbus folder, a Spider Co a Cold Steal Voyager police, Columba River M16 a smaller one, a Scrade peanut. Leatherman, or a Kershaw Chive. When I am in the woods I have one of the previous listed and my SRK or my Cold Steal Kukri. But I thank i need a Swiss Champ.

[crashdive123]

Holy cow! I'd give anything to get that Ka-bar!! I'm pretty sure that it's the Ka-bar Commando, a really old ka-bar, and they stopped making it a while ago. I'm not sure how much that knife is really worth, but 4$ sounds like the steal of the century. Man what's with you and great prices at gunshows!?

I'm cheap. Last weekend I looked for beat up old knives. There's one guy that I've talked to before that takes some in trade or picks them up at yard sales, fixes them up and sells them. I happened to catch him when he had quite a few on hand. The K-Bar and several antler handle knives. All with high carbon content, all need work. Also picked up several blanks and handles just to see what I could do with them. But remember the key......I'm cheap.

[sixgun]

I have many knives ka-bar, spyderco, CRKT, cammilus, cold steel and benchmade, even a marbles, but I always use my mora in the woods I love those knives its one of the few things which break my golden rule (you get what you pay for) these things are made of a laminated steel simular to a traditionally made katana, soft core metal wraped in a hard metal, strengh and flexabilty the best of both worlds, they found an inexpensive way to make this metal, so many people love these knives, try one and let me know what you think I have four.

[Sarge47]

My father-in-law's got you beat, Crash. Before he retired he worked as a farm-hand. One day he was working a field and found a really old Ka-bar buried in the dirt. The leather-washer handle was gone so he replaced it & now it sits in a place of honor in his stand he built for his knife collection. He also has a WWI fighting knife he rebuilt around the "Brass-Knuckle handle. I did find a Ka-Bar fighting knife with 7 inch blade, brand new in the box for $45 but it has the Army logo on the blade, so I'm not sure how bad I want it.:rolleyes:

Yo "Six-Gun"! Are ALL Mora knives built with that laminated steel? What brands are yours?:confused:

[Sarge47]

Here's the Ka-Bar I carry in the field at this time.

http://www.tomarskabars.com/1275_INFO.html :cool:

[crashdive123]

Yep - hard to beat found and free. K-Bar Bull Dozier is a mighty fine blade.

[Rick]

Honestly, what do you really need a knife for, other than confidence?

That's sort of my philosophy, too I guess. That's why my everyday carry is an Old Timer pocket knife. It's a bad boy when it comes to cardboard boxes, packing tape and envelopes.

[h8mtv]

I carry a RAT3-D2 by Ontario, I also keep a CS SRK (CV) in the gear.

[crashdive123]

The original question on the thread was “What knife do you prefer?.....I prefer options.

[Rick]

Never run with those in your pocket and be very very careful when you sit down.

[crashdive123]

Yeah - kind of learned that from Beo. Where is Trooper anyway? A'int buying at his mom's and no computer.

[Rick]

That's Beo's story isn't it. I suspect foul play. I sure hope he isn't tied in his bedroom with Mexican finger locks to keep him off the keyboard.

[crashdive123]

Probably testing the new SRT police issue gear.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Fingertrap.jpg

[NS0201]

Jesus christ!!! If the goverment come at you at least you will be prepared to go on the run.

[crashdive123]

:DYou should see the gun collection.:D

[Blood Groove]

I'm cheap. Last weekend I looked for beat up old knives. There's one guy that I've talked to before that takes some in trade or picks them up at yard sales, fixes them up and sells them. I happened to catch him when he had quite a few on hand. The K-Bar and several antler handle knives. All with high carbon content, all need work. Also picked up several blanks and handles just to see what I could do with them. But remember the key......I'm cheap.

CHEAP, there's something I can relate to. My Brother's are always calling me cheap, but I prefer to think of it as conservative. I mean, just because I get food off the dollar menue at wendys, and make gifts for birthdays, doesn't make me cheap. Besides, making somehting is much more special than buying somehting. Anyone can go to a store and buy something, but if I carve something that takes time and skill. But everyone calls me cheap. The only money I spend is at this little Military surplus store. Hey is that kukri you have on top in your picture a real ghurka kukri from Nepal?

[crashdive123]

Yes it is. Well I think it is.

[Rick]

It's a real Florida Kurhki now.

[Blood Groove]

Do you ever use that kukri, or is it more of a collectable?

[crashdive123]

I use it. When I first got it (yep - you guessed it) at one of the shows in town, I put an edge on it and then went out and purposely abused it cutting back brush, limbs, fallen dead wood just to see how it held up. Held up just fine. Not a bad tool for under $20 (think I payed about $12 but can't remember).

[Blood Groove]

:eek: holy cow!! I can't believe you got it for that cheap. This is really impressive. The last gun show I went to didn't have any good knives, just old beat up bayonets.

[crashdive123]

Cheaper Than Dirt has one that looks similar (don't know if it is) for under $10. Don't know what shipping costs are or the quality of the material.

[Sarge47]

Is that "Ebony Handled" Buck-Knife the "General" or the "Special"?:confused: the only place I could find the "General was at Cabela's.:cool:

[Sarge47]

:eek: holy cow!! I can't believe you got it for that cheap. This is really impressive. The last gun show I went to didn't have any good knives, just old beat up bayonets.
That's 'cause Crash got their 1st!:D

[crashdive123]

Is that "Ebony Handled" Buck-Knife the "General" or the "Special"?:confused: the only place I could find the "General was at Cabela's.:cool:

It's the 119, courtesy of Wal Mart.:D

[Blood Groove]

Cheaper Than Dirt has one that looks similar (don't know if it is) for under $10. Don't know what shipping costs are or the quality of the material.

I've looked at that one in cheaper than dirt, but I get a gut feeling it's not quality. I'm sure the one you get at the gun show is much better. My brother got me a cheap kukri from some catalogue, and it was really bad. Stainless steel blade, printed china right on it. The handle was two cheap pieces of metal stuck together, and I doubt that the tang went even half way down inside the handle. Of course I acted like I loved it...I mean it's my brother!

[NS0201]

:DYou should see the gun collection.:D

Post it!!!

[crashdive123]

Post it!!!

There's about 6 or 8 of em on here someplace. I'll get some of the others up eventually.

[crashdive123]

Here's a few of the hand guns - post #58. http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?p=43531&highlight=pager#post43531

[Ole WV Coot]

I just gave up and started making my own. I get what I want. They are sharp and pointy and I can lose as many as I want. Haven't tried a folder yet and probably won't, too much trouble. If you have the steel, plasma cutter, belt grinder, angle grinder and forge handy ain't nothing to it. Really all you need is a dremel tool, a couple of big files,vice, torch or make a little forge and just make users you can surprise yourself. I have a decent workshop about 100yds away from the house and everything I need so it's kinda easy for me.

[Tactical Tom]

I love my KNIVES :D Well it depends on what 'm doing for the day.
This is my New EDC (Fathers Day Gift) Along with this knife I always have my Vic. SAK soldier ! - Spyderco Endura waved -
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc212/coaldigger05/sc10pgyw.jpg
Here is my short hike (couple of hours) - ColdSteel ProLite/Ontario RAT3/Vic. SAK. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc212/coaldigger05/FavoriteCarryItems.jpg

[crashdive123]

Tactical Tom - looking at the time stamp on your post - what did you do? Stay up all night to open your Father's Day gift at the stroke of midnight?:D:D:D

[Rick]

Someone was into the presents early, I bet.

[Chiefman]

I prefer my Leatherman day to day and on hiking and hunting trips I take my Seal Elite and Seal Pup Elite knives.

[Tactical Tom]

Cold .
Steel makes several models and they are great. coldsteel.com
Their are only three problems with the traditional Kukri.
Blade,handle and sheath.
Most handals are small and slick.
Blades are not of the best metal and rust easy.
The sheath is poor leather and will rot and does not carry well.
But in spite of that they work great. They have been taken into the modern age by some makers.

I use a Cold Steel light kukri and love it. I Glued a leatherman tool and a sharpening rod pouch onto the sheath.

Problems ?
1 - blade ? The blade is made from a HD truck leaf spring = High Carbon Rolled Steel
+ Easy to resharpen & holds a good edge after use
+ Very Tough Material
- Will Rust if not taken care of ( oil regulary)
2- Handles - Yes the Handles are a little small but the Jungle Model has a rough finish on the handle so it's not so slick !
3- Sheath - SUCKS :p
The coldSteel model is 1/4" thick blade - The Jungl Model from Nepal has a 3/8" Blade :eek: = BEAST !

[Rick]

Got two small corn bread loaf pans from W*mart that make perfect containers for the kit itself.

That part I didn't do on mine. I looked at it and just wasn't satisfied with it. Instead, I chose to go with Pelican 1010. You could also use an Ottor Box 3250. It's about the same size. I think S3 also makes crushproof/waterproof cases. I wanted something that would keep the contents dry and safe no matter what.

[Ole WV Coot]

Guess I will have to get one and give it a try. I've never used or even held one, I still use the old `60s USA Ontario and I guess I need to retire it.

[yukon55]

i got two knives i use for survival one is a gerber obsidian,and a remington f,a,s,t.

[Rick]

I carry three knives on me. None are for survival. I don't plan to be in that type of situation.:o

[crashdive123]

I carry --- well you've seen the pictures.

[danmc]

I carry a cold steel master hunter in the woods. The blade is maybe a tad larger than what I really wanted but so far I've been pretty happy with it. It is a thick enough blade that I don't think I'm going to hurt it by using it to split smaller logs. Being able to split a smallish log means being able to make a hearth aka fireboard, although thats really not my goto fire source. The drop point blade, for me at least, seems to work well.

Rick said something about those gerber saws, I have to agree. I don't always carry mine, but it works like a champ. If I'm planning on doing anything where i need to cross cut a branch or smaller log, then I always take it.

Despite that fact that the knife thats in my pocket right now has a serrated section, I prefer a straight edge. I worry about bending/breaking a serration and I'm not convinced its that much use to me.

One thing I did modify on my master hunter though is I took a file and rounded the back side edges a bit. Before that I found that they were sharp enough that pushing on them with your thumb became painful pretty quickly.

Quite a number of other knives I looked at before I settled on this one had blades I liked but the back of the handle looked like it could become uncomfortable after extended use in some situations. Thats probably the final thing that steered me to this choice.

I'll note that this particular knife was right at the top end of my budget so I only looked at mass produced knives. Besides I'll only cry some instead of a lot if I break it or somehow lose it. Some of those customs are so pretty I might have a hard time using them how I want to.

[RangerXanatos]

those cold steel machetes are not worth the money i had one and warped the thing first day out..

I have the latin 24" blade CS machete. Mine is warped WAAAAY out of shape. I still use it, but I can tell that it doesn't perform nearly as well as it used to.

If I plan on going out with the intent of heavy chopping, I carry a HI kuhkuri. A .5" piece of leaf spring is not going to bend or break on you. ;) Otherwise, I carry a CS True Flight Thrower (which I have split 2x4's with) or the ever so popular Mora. Any one of these I would feel comfortable using to find my way back to civilization if the need ever arised. But each knife has it's pros and cons. Just depends on which you feel would do the best for you.

[tonester]

i just got a RAT RC-4. its awesome. the edge is razor sharp and the grip is very comfortable. and i think the price is amazing. RAT cutlery also has a no questions asked warranty...so if ANYTHING were to happen to my knife they replace it for free!

[Rick]

Yeah, the price is amazing. $161 on the RAT Cutlery page. $80-$90 elsewhere. That's amazingly high in my book.

[tonester]

Yeah, the price is amazing. $161 on the RAT Cutlery page. $80-$90 elsewhere. That's amazingly high in my book.

yah its a bit pricey if you get it straight from RAT. i got mine from knifesupply for about 90$. the knife also comes with a nice kydex sheath with molle locks. i think all that for under 100 bucks is a deal.

[Rick]

I'm all for that 78 cent knife that someone posted a couple of days ago. $90 is like a magnet in my pocket when it comes to buying knives. I couldn't pry it out.

[skunkkiller]

you can always make a knife from flint if you need one but I wouldn't 90 bucks for any knife.The knife I carry the blade I found on the side of the road one day took it home put nice antler but handle on it made a sheath and there i go nice knife stays sharp and always carry a wetstone just in case it needs sharpening all for alittle work but to me it was more like fun.

[Deer Sniper]

Recently I purchased a knife from Maxam. I haven't gotten it yet, so I'm still waiting for it. Here's the knife:
http://www.ckbproducts.com/product_info.php/cPath/246_258/products_id/1327
Great website btw.

Anywho, I was just wondering what everyone's thoughts were. Good knife? Bad knife?

While we're on the subject, I also would like to know what you all look for in a good knife.

IMO , I look for a knife that is 440 stainless or good carbon steel. 440 is preferable to me. Tang through construction is imperative! Well secured micarta scales or a cord wrap is preferable to a molded over handle to me. I like a length of 10" to 15" overall. A big knife will chop and make small cuts but a small knife wont chop effectively. Also blade width is important 1/4" to 3/8" seems good, much less than 1/4" is too thin. Blade shape is simple personal preference, Bowie, Kukri, Bolo, Waidblatt, are all good.

The main problem I have with the knife you purchased is that I do not know how well the handle is secured. It may be solid. I just cannot tell. Otherwise the blade design while somewhat odd looking, appears adequate for both cutting and chopping. For the price, I would say if you like it, take it out in the woods and beat the snot out of some dead fall. if the knife handles it and the handle doesnt loosen up then you got a knife. If it does loosen up or you find some other problem, toss it or give it to your nephew or something. :)

Remember that the knife prefered by many if not most outdoorsmen ( Native Americans, Cowboys, Trappers, Buffalow Hunters, etc. )in the 1800's was a 8" to 10" Green River butcher knife. Still available today, and found in the knife block of many chiefs and in the drawr of many home kitchens. And these guys knew what a survival knife was if anyone did! Look arround in some yard sales, I bet you can find one for under $5 if you want one. I have.

[Deer Sniper]

I ain't no marine or survivalist but a 13 year old hunter/outdoorsman. I carry a leather all the time and of course I use it as a backup in the woods with my primary knife the survival knife I will be getting.

Ive gutted more than one deer with my leatherman. And cut a few briars loose with it too, among other things.

[Tactical Tom]

Get yourself a Frosts Mora ! I like the Clipper model w/ carbon blade, They are Awsome for the $ ( around $10.00 ) Also you'll need a small stone to keep things sharp ;) With a Mora & a good machete you can do pretty much anything in the bush !
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc212/coaldigger05/BUSHSET.jpg
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc212/coaldigger05/Survivalkit.jpg
This is my 12" ontario Machete & Frosts Mora Clipper combo !

[brassdropper]

New here, great thread. I have carried a Kabar fixed blade in the woods for years... It looks like hell, but works as good as it did 20 years ago when I bought it...used.
I also use a buck BKS 119, but I dont punish it like the kabar...

Hope its ok for me to post a link to my favorite survival knives page:
best-survival-knife (http://www.survival-gear-guide.com/best-survival-knife.html) There is a section at the bottom to add your own knife.

I love ontario stuff, the RAT-7 is on the list, and I also like the 499 survival knife:

[trax]

Well that's a darn fine knife for pretty much any occassion brassdropper and welcome to the forum. I for one am glad you're enjoying it and we certainly look forward to your input. Maybe, when you have time, stop by the introduction section and let us know a bit about yourself, your outdoor interests and experience, what sort of environment you generally practice your outdoor skills in, that sort of thing. But most of all...welcome :) You'll find the wolfpack to be a funloving, whacky bunch of kids...

(how was that, boss? did I sound sincere? is this thing still on? Oh s*it...)

naw seriously, welcome in brassdropper.

[Gray Wolf]

WoW...... I'm in shock :D

And welcome brassdropper, and please do as the man says and go over to the intro and tell us about yourself.

[danmc]

It has yet to be woods tested but I found this at a local junk/antique shop for not too much.

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/knife.jpg

the blade is 5/32" thick so along the spine it is fairly hefty. It does have a slight hollow grind to it so we'll see how well it holds up to rough (ab)use. The knife fits my hand fairly well and the handle looks nice although I noticed that the brass on the front of the handle is sized differently on the left and right sides of the blade. I did use it for some wood work and it still sliced printer paper with no tearing.

So far the biggest problem is no sheath. Guess I've got yet another project.

[Gray Wolf]

It has yet to be woods tested but I found this at a local junk/antique shop for not too much.
the blade is 5/32" thick so along the spine it is fairly hefty. It does have a slight hollow grind to it so we'll see how well it holds up to rough (ab)use.

What is stamped on the blade, I couldn't make it out?

[danmc]

What is stamped on the blade, I couldn't make it out?

one side says "EXPLORER ZZ" and the other "440 C STAINLESS JAPAN"

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/knife2.jpg

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/knife3.jpg

[Rick]

I've got an old (30+ years) Japanese stainless and love it.

[Capt.Canuck]

I've got an old (30+ years) Japanese stainless and love it.

Yep, the Japanese have been making superior steel for over 1000 years. They know their stuff.

[danmc]

and here is my first try at a knife sheath.

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/20080802155.jpg


http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/20080802156.jpg

I more or less followed the instructions I found at http://beknivessite2.homestead.com/pouchsheath.html Any mistakes are mine. Next time I'm going to make the belt loop take a wider belt and I may make it be part of the same piece of leather instead of being stitched on. I'm also going to keep a paper tracing of the leather too to make it easier to come up with an incremental change to the design. Still I'm fairly happy with my first leather project. Plus I can actually use the knife now that I have a way to carry it.

-Dan

[Gray Wolf]

Dan, can you post a pic with the knife in the sheath?

[rebel]

Nice job on the sheath!

[nell67]

nice work dan.

[crashdive123]

Good job Dan.

[Ole WV Coot]

That sure beats my first. I like the pouch type myself. I couldn't tell if you put a welt in or not. Anyway it looks good to me.

[danmc]

Dan, can you post a pic with the knife in the sheath?

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l415/dans_pics_are_we/Knife_ID_1/20080802157.jpg

[danmc]

That sure beats my first. I like the pouch type myself. I couldn't tell if you put a welt in or not. Anyway it looks good to me.

yes, I did put a welt in.

-Dan

[crashdive123]

Just in case anybody bought one of these back in the 1980's I apologize in advance for laughing. I don't recall ever seeing the commercial on TV, but was LMAO when I saw the You Tube vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gj9CMvwfv4

[Rick]

I was browsing some antique shops last week-end and found a Kershaw Black Horse in 440 stainless for $15. No sheath but it still found a home.

[Gray Wolf]

Love those small antique shops, At yard sales I'll always ask the person if they have any old knives or old rifles for sale that they were afraid to put out. Like that saying "One mans junk is another mans treasure".

[Ole WV Coot]

I usually find old saw blades, files and old truck springs, always can make something sharp and pointy for nothing. I get cherry, maple really any hardwood scraps to use as handles and any junk brass especially welding rods for pins. Forget guns or old knives around here. The people know way too much about them to get a decent price.

[Rick]

I also found a corn knife in one but the goober wanted $45 for it and the scales were loose. I'd forgotten all about corn knives. Ace hardware has them plenty cheap on their web site.

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(kf5okn45lxiqzpme5wcvyg45)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=70954

[nell67]

Just in case anybody bought one of these back in the 1980's I apologize in advance for laughing. I don't recall ever seeing the commercial on TV, but was LMAO when I saw the You Tube vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gj9CMvwfv4

Crash,my son just bought one of those crappy things last week for $8.:rolleyes:

[Gray Wolf]

I usually find old saw blades, files and old truck springs.

This just reminded me that kid hasn't stopped in here since the end of January.
I liked his knives...

[Ole WV Coot]

This just reminded me that kid hasn't stopped in here since the end of January.
I liked his knives...


I have seen him a couple of times on other knife forums. He lives in Caribou, ME last I heard. I have loads of friends and relatives (my Swedish side) in the area. He used old saw blades from local sawmills once. I don't know of any in that area. He was all over outdoor forums to advertise same as here. He did nice work.

[nell67]

When was the last time you saw him Coot? Last I heard,he was pretty bad sick,was wondering how he was doing.

[Ole WV Coot]

I didn't know that Nell. He did have a site online a month or so ago. He uses the same material that I do so I was interested in his work and Caribou, ME is very familiar to me, saw it mentioned on his site. Mom's family came from Sweden and settled a few miles out, I try to go there often. His online site is still active. I searched Kid Couteau and got a bunch of hits.

[nell67]

Coot,my bad,it was another member who was ill.

[tonester]

for those of you that have carbon steel blades, what do you guys use to keep them from rusting?

[crashdive123]

for those of you that have carbon steel blades, what do you guys use to keep them from rusting?

I use a spray coating/lubricant called Strike Force. Spray it on and then wipe it off after a few minutes. Works fantastic. I've also used it on wearpons and garden tools. Things just will not rust after being coated with this.

[tonester]

thanks crashdive. would i be able to pick some up like at a wallmart?

[crashdive123]

The only place I've seen it is at local gun shows. I'll grab a can and see if there is any ordering info on it and send you a pm.

[crashdive123]

I got the name of the product wrong - it's Strike Hold. They do have a web site. http://www.strike-hold.com/

Another thing to consider (and cheaper too) is - a lot of people use vegetable oil or olive oil to protect their carbon steel blades from rusting.

[Fargus]

for those of you that have carbon steel blades, what do you guys use to keep them from rusting?
I use a product called Weapon Shield (http://www.weaponshield.com/page2.htm), mainly used as a CLP for my firearms. Works well on knives also. Zero rust in a fairly moist climate.

[Ryleyboy]

what do you think would be the best knife to make a spear with?

[Sarge47]

what do you think would be the best knife to make a spear with?
A sharp one! It's not the knife, just the person using it, ok?:cool:

[Ryleyboy]

ok.. //.. ..

[Sarge47]

ok.. //.. ..
You're 13 years old & your asking all kinds of questions that any Tenderfoot Boy Scout knows the answer to. You're showing up in different threads, asking redundant questions which tells me that, like most kids your age, you really hate homework. The problem is that Survival is one area where doing your homework is essential! There is a term for people who don't do their homework: "F.I.T.W.D!" (Found In The Woods Dead!)

If you have a question about knives go to the "Survival Knife" Sticky. If you have a question about shelters enter the word "shelters" bracketed in the quotation marks just like I've shown you, then click on search. Better yet, go to the homepage of this site & start reading the copy of the US Army Survival Manual that's sitting there for anybody to use.

What experience have you had with knives? Do you own any right now? Are you allowed to use them or not? To make a spear all you need is a long tree branch about an inch & a half in diameter & 4 to 6 feet long, preferably straight; then take any sharp knife (Even a kitchen knife, or a pocket knife will work.) and whittle a point on one end, making sure you don't cut yourself, or gut yourself, in the process. Then you just need to learn how to harden the point by heat-treating it in a fire. For all this info you just need to do a search on the word "Spear", or "making a Spear".

However, please make sure that your parents are aware of what you are doing at all times, that info could save your life.:cool:

[Sam Reeves]

Why are y'all picking on some thirteen year old kid? :mad:

[Sarge47]

Why are y'all picking on some thirteen year old kid? :mad:
Butt out Sam!:mad: If you don't like it here you don't need to stay! The young man is going to learn properly if he wants to survive, ok? Anymore flaming on the mods & you'll be gone! I've had your nonsense up to here! Oh, BTW, you're not 13 are you?:mad:

[Sam Reeves]

Butt out Sam!:mad: If you don't like here you don't need to stay! The young man is going to learn properly if he wants to survive, ok? Anymore flaming on the mods & you'll be gone! I've had your nonsense up to here! Oh, BTW, you're not 13 are you?:mad:

Ban me you cyber cop. :rolleyes:

It's disgusting the way y'all beat up the new guys. He's a kid. Just a kid. You don't ever need to scream at a kid to get him to understand. I reckon y'all justify this behavior in the name of "education", you bunch of commies.

This is y'all natural dispostion anyway since the 'Wolf Pack" is really just a bunch of half breed mutts anyway.

Here's what I think about politics:

[http://www.****************

BTW, ********** has more hardcore survivalist, some with just as much military training as the best here.

And here is what I think of y'all:

http://www.******************

[Sarge47]

Ban me you cyber cop. :rolleyes:
As per your request; BTW, I didn't know he was 13 until he mentioned his age in another thread, but that doesn't give anyone the right to be disrespectful. And no one's "beating up" on him by being firm. Also, we're not yelling, but being assertive. 'bye.:cool:

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

These are the knives I currently choose as my favorites lol
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/knives002.jpg

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

The one I trully rely on? My Sog and my srk carbon and soon a mora crafstmen 740 carbon to test lol

[Ole WV Coot]

You're getting as bad as some of us. Nasty habit but I have had it a long long time. Just wait until your biggest decision before you leave the house is which knives to take. Yep you're a knife addict just like me.

[Ryleyboy]

sarge- i have lots of knifes but most of them need to be sharpened.. and yes im allowed to use them.. .. and i will try that search thing now considering that i just found it.

[Sarge47]

sarge- i have lots of knifes but most of them need to be sharpened.. and yes im allowed to use them.. .. and i will try that search thing now considering that i just found it.
Very good, when you get the hang of the search feature. also check on "knife sharpening". It may help.:cool:

[Ryleyboy]

ok.. thanks

[Bibow]

my favorite is the buck pathfinder in my opinion the only thing better is a finnish puuko but i haven't been able to get my hands on one yet.

[crashdive123]

So how do you know it's better?

[Bibow]

ok maybe that didn't come out right the only thing i think could be better is the puukko. i heard there very good and they look pretty nice to.but the pathfinder is a great knife for everything.

[crashdive123]

Ah don't worry about it Bibow I was just having a little fun. If you like the knife, that's all that matters. As the saying goes - if it works for you, then it works for me.

[Rick]

Still, that was a pretty good laugh. I've been guilty of the, "dang, that didn't come out right" syndrome myself a time or three.

[Bibow]

ya gotta hate when that happens

[Catfish]

:) What's also frustrating is when you spend ages composing a beautiful post, with well thought out and insightful comments, then sit back to wait on the applause. Only to find people arguing with you, and responding to opinions you didn't express.

What? What are they talking about? I didn't say that, I said...well, let me take a look and see what I did say. Here it is, I said...oh. Well, that's not what I meant. :D

[crashdive123]

People here arguing? Say it ain't so.

[crashdive123]

OK Catfish - here ya go.

http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/1233_hand_clapping.gif (http://www.clipartof.com)

[Rick]

That's not true, Catfish. You can't go off like that and make some accusation against the forum and.....just kidding.

[Catfish]

What are you talking about? That's not what I meant! Hang on, let me go see what I wrote. Oh.

:D

[davef]

I'm new to this forum, and thought I'd show my little collection.

My collection
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/d_filgate/KIT/Kit009---Whole-Crew.jpg

In addition to these, I have a fold down Swede Saw.

At the top is my new $9.00 Fiskars
Left hand side:
Swamp Rat Ratweiler
Sog Daggert II
Fallkniven A1
Rat Tak D2
Koster Bushcraft
Golok Petok
Benchmade 710 D2
Leatherman

Middle:
Schrade Little Finger
Leatherman Charge

Right Side:
Becker BK9
Swamp Rat Ratmandu
Scrapyard S6
Scrapyard DMDC
Koster Nessmuk
Nick Allen NWA 5"
Busse Active Duty
Swamprat Hairy Carry
Spyderco Gunting
Spyderco Delica

[Rick]

Hey, you're all right. I'll take the Rat. You don't have to wrap it or anything just drop it in a box. And thanks!!!

[crashdive123]

Nice collection. Thanks for letting us take a look.

[davef]

My every day carry knife alternates between the BM710 and the Spyderco
Delica with the Leatherman c303 in there sometimes.
(The green handled knife is a Bram Frank Lapu Lapu Corto)


Leatherman Charge (top)
Benchmade 710 (middle left)
Leatherman c303 (bottom right)
Spyderco Delica (bottom left


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/d_filgate/KIT/Kit013---Folders.jpg

What I use the most:

Becker BK9 (top right)
Scrapyard Scrapper 6 (top left under Fiskars)
Koster Bushcraft (3rd down on right)
Leatherman Charge
Nick Allen NWA 5" (under the Leatherman Charge)


http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm35/d_filgate/KIT/Kit010-choices.jpg

[flandersander]

I was thinking of getting some woodworking knives. Anybody have some? I was thinking "crooked" knife. Not sure if thats what its called, but its for carving out the concave in something like a bowl. Anybody reccomend a good set?

[Proud American]

Just in case anybody bought one of these back in the 1980's I apologize in advance for laughing. I don't recall ever seeing the commercial on TV, but was LMAO when I saw the You Tube vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gj9CMvwfv4

O that was Priceless the "best selling knife we ever sold":D:D:D:D

O I have a knife blog so if you want somthin to be put on there or want to look at it. This is just a remminder that its there.:)

[Deer Sniper]

Depends on my wardrobe. I try to act toward knives the way a lot of women do with their shoes, one for whatever outfit I happen to have on. Since about 95% of the time that involves jeans or khakis, it ain't that tough, but one should maintain a fashion sense. Takes me a longer time to get ready when I'm leaving the house in the morning because I'll narrow it down to about a half dozen, but then it's like ....decisions decisions....what to do...

Oh thank God im not the only one!!!!!

[RangerXanatos]

Wow! You have a little fortune right there in steel.

[Gray Wolf]

Nice collection Dave!

[davef]

Thanks for the comments everyone.
Lots of research went into the collecting. I learned early on, to ask
questions, and to listen to the advice of those who know.
That and being lucky to get some good deals has allowed me to score some
good knives.

Now, I have to figure out which ones to put into my kit.
I've been trying to go by the rule of 3's, but when it comes to knives, it's
pretty difficult. I like them all, too much :)

In addition to the collection of knifes, I've got one of those break down
Swede Saws to add into the mix somewhere.

For the kit I'm putting together, I'm thinking:
Saw (the breakdown Swede, or a folding Buck or Gerbers pruning type saw)
Chopper (Hatchet or Chopping knife)
Medium size knife (General duty)
Small knife and/or Leatherman

Being new to this, any and all suggestions are welcome.
Critique and commentary will get a guaranteed read.

I'm going to be posting pictures of my kit, such as it is, in a separate post,
sometime this weekend for everyone to check out and give suggestions on.

Thanks again for the comments on my small knife collection.

Cheers.
Dave

[crashdive123]

As far as which to chose to put in your kit - just remember that the knives are tools (it's been said elsewhere and many times). Choose the right tools for the jobs that you may need to do out of your kit (sounds like that's what you're doing).

[Ole WV Coot]

Koster Nessmuk without a doubt. Just my personal opinion but you wouldn't believe the uses and punishment mine take. I don't plan on chopping with one, have other things for that.

[Atomic]

I carry a lighter and a pocket knife with me at all times. Just a "what if" kind of thing mostly but they are both still tools I do use a lot. Anyway if I were going out in the woods for a camping trip or just to test my skills I'd take that and a larger fixed blade. It's just smart.

The real question is: Machete or hatchet? I say a machete is very useful and could be used to take down small trees or cut up fallen wood for fire but since we already have a large fixed blade a hatchet would be better. Hammer on one end and bone breaking tree cutting blade on the other.

[danmc]

I carry a lighter and a pocket knife with me at all times.

I almost always carry a pocket knife with me. A big exception is if I visit a school where there are often times zero tolerance "do not pass go, go directly to jail for a long time" laws in place. Wonder how many folks have violated that by leaving some fishing stuff with a fillet knife as part of it in the trunk.

[RobertRogers]

Ask 1000 guys about knives and expect 2000 answers. Likely more.

[Blood Groove]

IMO you can get just about the same ammout of cutting power with a good kukri as you can witha machete. PLus they're smaller and fit on your belt. There wicked effective, and you really get a deep appreciation for them when you read about their history. FOr a chopper I'll almost always recommend a kukri, but that's just because they've worked so well for me. I'm getting a new one from Nepal, but it takes FOREVER to ship it.

[SurvivalkitsUSA]

There sure are a lot of post here, but I will have to say, CRKT is the Best! I love to collect them. I want to get as many as I can.

[Blood Groove]

CRKT seems to make good knives. I've been looking at the First Strike for a long time. I like the Japanese style they use, I'm just not too sure about the steel. I'ts 440 A. I've read some negative stuff about that steel, but I have to think that if they used it in that knife it'd have to work well. I don't acatually won one of their knives though.

[HaroldB]

A knife for survival means your life, buy the BEST you can afford. Benchmade, RAT survival or Falkniven all make great sheath knives.

A smaller super-sharp folder is very useful, like Spyderco's Caly Jr or Sage too.

[sgtdraino]

CRKT seems to make good knives.

CRKT are widely regarded to have very high quality products. However, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, I have never really cared for any of their designs. Esthetically and ergonomically, they just don't do it for me.

On the off-chance someone on here isn't aware of it, you should totally check out this site:

http://www.knifetests.com/

This guy perferms a "Destruction Test" on a bunch of different knives (some expensive, some not) reputed to be "tough." The tests start low key, then get progressively more and more extreme until the knife is finally destroyed. To the point where he is hammering them into concrete blocks or metal pipes, or putting the blade in a clamp and bouncing up and down on the handle with his entire body. You can watch videos of the whole thing. Results can sometimes be pretty surprising.

[h8mtv]

CRKT are widely regarded to have very high quality products. However, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, I have never really cared for any of their designs. Esthetically and ergonomically, they just don't do it for me.

On the off-chance someone on here isn't aware of it, you should totally check out this site:

http://www.knifetests.com/

This guy perferms a "Destruction Test" on a bunch of different knives (some expensive, some not) reputed to be "tough." The tests start low key, then get progressively more and more extreme until the knife is finally destroyed. To the point where he is hammering them into concrete blocks or metal pipes, or putting the blade in a clamp and bouncing up and down on the handle with his entire body. You can watch videos of the whole thing. Results can sometimes be pretty surprising.

CRKT is not crap, but they do not make a great knife. They make good knives.

I carry a RAT-3D2 in my daily carry backpack. Once they are available I plan to buy an Izula neck knife and have a leather pouch type sheath made for belt carry.

Dare I say "the cats meow"?
http://www.ratcutlery.com/neck_knife.htm

[tonester]

CRKT is not crap, but they do not make a great knife. They make good knives.

I carry a RAT-3D2 in my daily carry backpack. Once they are available I plan to buy an Izula neck knife and have a leather pouch type sheath made for belt carry.

Dare I say "the cats meow"?
http://www.ratcutlery.com/neck_knife.htm

i actually emailed jeff randall a couple of days ago about when the izula was gonna be available, he said in about another six weeks. ive been waiting for this knife for so long!

[huntermj]

http://F:\DCIM\100_FUJI\DSCF0111.JPG
If the image thingy works you can see my first attempt to make a knife. It is .225 thick and i used 440c steel. i based it on Tom Brows design. It works great at building shelters and fire bow kits, so it does what i need it to do. A friend of mine has the Tom Brown knife and the back is not a saw, the holes on the back are supposed to be for snapping wire. he says it does not do that so well but at least it makes the knife look cool. If the image thingy does not work then this was just a test, pay no attention this was just a test, just a test.

Well i did manage to put the picture of the knife in my avatar somehow. It would mot upload to either my album or as an attachment.

[tsitenha]

The same as a previous poster:
I use my knife to cut with and use a hatchet to do the chopping work
I carry at the least 3 knives a folder, a 4" fixed blade and a 7" fixed blade with a hatchet in the pack or across my lower back.

[Blood Groove]

CRKT are widely regarded to have very high quality products. However, for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, I have never really cared for any of their designs. Esthetically and ergonomically, they just don't do it for me.

On the off-chance someone on here isn't aware of it, you should totally check out this site:

http://www.knifetests.com/

This guy perferms a "Destruction Test" on a bunch of different knives (some expensive, some not) reputed to be "tough." The tests start low key, then get progressively more and more extreme until the knife is finally destroyed. To the point where he is hammering them into concrete blocks or metal pipes, or putting the blade in a clamp and bouncing up and down on the handle with his entire body. You can watch videos of the whole thing. Results can sometimes be pretty surprising.

I've heared of the destruction test sire, but seeing as I have dial-up internet, I can never really watch the videos. I saw that the Ka-bar got a low rating (and I worship the Ka-bar) so that depressed me, adn I really didn't want to go back. But I'd like to watch some of the videos and stuff. HOw do they get expensive knives and ruin them adn still be able to sleep at night!!!!!??????

[Blood Groove]

http://F:\DCIM\100_FUJI\DSCF0111.JPG
If the image thingy works you can see my first attempt to make a knife. It is .225 thick and i used 440c steel. i based it on Tom Brows design. It works great at building shelters and fire bow kits, so it does what i need it to do. A friend of mine has the Tom Brown knife and the back is not a saw, the holes on the back are supposed to be for snapping wire. he says it does not do that so well but at least it makes the knife look cool. If the image thingy does not work then this was just a test, pay no attention this was just a test, just a test.

Well i did manage to put the picture of the knife in my avatar somehow. It would mot upload to either my album or as an attachment.

Wait a second you made that knife that's the picture for your avatar???

[SARKY]

Since you already have a folder, I would reccomend 2 fixed blade knives. The first is the Swedish Mora and the second is the Cold Steel Pendelton hunter. I've used both of these knives and they work quite well.As for sharpening, I carry a Lansky dual sided folding sharpener. It has 2 different grits and they are diamond embedded so they will last a long time.

[huntermj]

It took a while to grind out the shape on the bench grinder, used a belt sander for the bevel. had it hardened and tempered by a company near me and back to the belt sander for polishing. it really does chop like a son of a gun. i still carry a frost for more delicate jobs.
Jim

[Blood Groove]

It took a while to grind out the shape on the bench grinder, used a belt sander for the bevel. had it hardened and tempered by a company near me and back to the belt sander for polishing. it really does chop like a son of a gun. i still carry a frost for more delicate jobs.
Jim

Wow it's a nice looking knife. Did you forge it, or is it more of a ground knife?

[erunkiswldrnssurvival]

these are two "survival Knives" that nature provides....

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=111

And also...

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=105

[Blood Groove]

What the heck is that second ''survival knife''?

[Ameriborn]

It has likely already been covered in this topic, and I will look when I am done with this post. However, I will ask anyway.

Has anyone had any experience with the Cheaper Than Dirt Rough Use Knives? I saw the destruction tests right after they were put on the page, and was wondering what any of you thought about them.

[sgtdraino]

I've heared of the destruction test sire, but seeing as I have dial-up internet, I can never really watch the videos.

Aww, you should go to a library or something. Those videos are great!

I saw that the Ka-bar got a low rating (and I worship the Ka-bar) so that depressed me, adn I really didn't want to go back.

The Ka-Bar Heavy Bowie got a pretty decent rating (4 Swords). It is surprising how quickly some of the expensive blades fail, and how well some of the cheap blades last (like the Cold Steel Kukri and the CTD Rough Use).

But I'd like to watch some of the videos and stuff. HOw do they get expensive knives and ruin them adn still be able to sleep at night!!!!!??????

lol. I dunno, man! The guy doesn't seem like he's rich. Maybe people donate them. I think with some of them he attempts to get a replacement through the warranty. Then I guess he can always sell the replacement and recoup.

Has anyone had any experience with the Cheaper Than Dirt Rough Use Knives? I saw the destruction tests right after they were put on the page, and was wondering what any of you thought about them.

I do not have any experience, but looking at the 22 customer reviews on the Cheaper Than Dirt website, it sounds like you really can't go wrong for the price.

[crashdive123]

In this thread http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3736&highlight=knifetests there is a discussion about the knife test site that you may find interesting.

[Blood Groove]

sgt draino
Well I was mostly talking about the Usmc Ka-bar, it like only got three swords or something. I saw the video at school, adn it likiemd like the tang broke in half or something. Maybe they had a deffective Ka-bar that's what I keep telling myself. I do think that they get donations becuase the one video I did watch at school, the guy said that they just got a knife in the mail and he didn't know what knife it was going to be. So I bet they do get donations.

[klkak]

I was checking out my local news on the web and I came across this link about knives.
http://community.adn.com/adn/node/131146

[Ameriborn]

I do not have any experience, but looking at the 22 customer reviews on the Cheaper Than Dirt website, it sounds like you really can't go wrong for the price.

Yea, I thought about that as well. I was just hoping some people here may have some more info, and I didn't wanna start ANOTHER knife thread.

Anyway, after reading through that site Crash posted, I've decided that I will be getting each person of my family a CTD RUK for Christmas, and Myself all 3 of them :)

Thanks for posting that, Crash, I really appreciate it.

[Ameriborn]

I have been looking around the net recently about the Scrapyard scrapper 6 knife, and I can't seem to find a place to buy it. Are they not being made anymore? I had a $300 dollar spending limit for Christmas, but because of the CTD RUK I am going to try and find a Scrapyard Scrapper 6, however they are .. nowhere (for me, at least) to be found. Any help here would be welcome. Thanks.

If you haven't seen it before, here is the official site. (Although I can't find anywhere on here to buy the knife.) http://www.scrapyardknives.com/knives.htm

[crashdive123]

On the contact page of the site you listed there are some email contacts, but after reading the two paragraphs above the email adresses (to use their language) I don't think I'd buy anything from them - ever.

[yukon55]

http://www.majorsurplus.com/Glacier-Bay-II-P13313C2003.aspx
i used this knife for every thing till i dropped it into a lake :(

[BenG2813]

What about the Tom Brown Jr. knife. I heard that was the mac daddy of Knifes.

[Ameriborn]

Crash - The reason that is there is because people believe that Scrap yard and Busse are the same company. And, though they are the same team, so to say, they aren't the same company.
Also, I have been talking with a member of them and they likely won't have any more Scrapper 6's for a long while. Oh well. Heres to hoping I can find one cheap on blade forums >.>

[crashdive123]

Oh I got that, but to say hey thanks for visiting our website where we posted some pictures of some nice knives that you may want to buy.......but if you ever ask us about them we will ban you.......just seems kind of odd that's all.

[Ameriborn]

It said that? I didn't see it. Oh well, I should pay more attention to detail :)

Well, I will be sure to let y'all know of the next knife I buy. Should be sometime around likely before Christmas. (Because I am saving all the extra money I get for a new rifle)

[chiye tanka]

I've got 2 Busse's and love them but they can be azzzz. I e-mailed Scrapyard a few months ago and still haven't recieved a reply. (holding breath & turning blue)

[Gray Wolf]

I've got 2 Busse's and love them but they can be azzzz. I e-mailed Scrapyard a few months ago and still haven't recieved a reply. (holding breath & turning blue)

Read Scrapyard's warning! The brothers had split up and now each have their own businesses, that are not connected in any way. You have helped me so PM me with what the problems you're having, and I might be able to help you resolve them. Unfortunately people don't understand whats going on with them.
They're good people with good products.

[chiye tanka]

GW, sent the PM.

[Rick]

Uh, wouldn't it be easier if they just put an explanation on their web page instead of coming across so customer unfriendly? A simple explanation would have done it.