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Jay
12-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Hi,
Sometime ago, in order to give my students an idea of what to expect from a solar still I conducted some experiments. These were done at an altitude of around 1800ft above sea level. The area is definitely not dry, but at the time it hadn’t seen any rain for about a month and a half. When I introduce the solar still to my students I make it a point to tell them that it is at best a “stop gap measure”. you cant depend on it to keep you alive. The experiments seem to prove it. Unfortunately I had no way of measuring humidity.

Size of pit.(inches) Cloud cover (scale of 1-10) Time elapsed Quantity of water.

36x36x18 less than 1 4hrs 93ml
20x20x20 1 6 40ml
36x36x18 1 6 111ml
36x36x18 3 6 80ml
36x36x18 6 6 52ml
20x20x20 3 6 42ml
20x20x20 6 6 14ml

These results are pretty poor. But I found that any muddy(undrinkable) water poured into the hole before sealing it up increased the results by about three fold.
Along the coast I also discovered that if you dump several buckets of sea water into a pit the resulting water from evaporation is drinkable although it tastes slightly brackish. Fresh vegetation added to the hole, also increases the output by as much as 60%. Cactus (optunia) chopped up and placed in the pit also boosts output by 50 – 70%. Water tastes slightly bitter.

I have tried these experiments over and over and am still doing them from time to time when ever I go to a new area. But overall the solar still does not seem to give me good results when weighed against the energy expended to make one. Especially if the ground is hard. (digging was done with a sharp stick and knife to simulate a survival situation and took about 2.5hrs.)

The results of collecting dew off vegetation were much, much better. The best was 300ml with just 3 swipes with a 1x1meter bandana. (up in the mountains)

Transpiration from trees also yielded poor results. I suspect the size of leaf, composition etc plays a role in this. I am continuing with experiments as and when possible.

I’ll be glad to hear your experiences, thoughts and suggestions.
rgds

Gray Wolf
12-09-2007, 07:07 PM
Rick and I were discussing transpiration stills in another thread. He was showing a newbie one, using a clear bag. I have found that using a black bag yielded about 1/3 more water. As I stated to Rick, I think it's because of the black drawing more heat. If you get to try it, please post your results.

Jay
12-09-2007, 07:24 PM
Thanks,
I hadn't thought of using a coloured bag. I try a black one and let you know.

Gray Wolf
12-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Please do, because if you get the same results as I did, it would help everyone here, and can be passed on. The only reason I got the idea to try it was because of the black drawing more heat with everything else.

woodwose
12-09-2007, 09:38 PM
Thanks,
I hadn't thought of using a coloured bag. I try a black one and let you know.

When you do, I would be interested in type of plant and size of leaves. Also, how much time with the black bag verses the 'clear one'? I would bet that the black bag takes less time because of the color. A good source for black bags are those pet (doo doo) bags.. of course, brand new and not used.. :D

Gray Wolf
12-09-2007, 09:48 PM
A good source for black bags are those pet (doo doo) bags.. of course, brand new and not used.. :D


There goes the flavoring.... lol

Rick
12-09-2007, 10:40 PM
Use a large sized garbage bag. You can cover more plant and (in theory) extract more water. Besides, doo doo bags aren't in my survival kit and trash bags are.:D