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owl_girl
04-20-2007, 12:37 AM
Yes it is important to know the poisonous species of snakes in your aria but what abut how to treat them, yes get to the hospital ASAP, but it’s not always immediately available. If your hiking in the middle of nowhere it could be a long time before you get there. It’s important to know what to do and even more important to know what not to do. There’s a lot of old, out of date methods on how to treat rattlesnake bites, many of which we now know are dangerous and can cause even more damage! When my family and me moved to the upper Midwest we knew there were going to be rattlesnakes. They aren’t that common but I have seen a few. Almost stepped on one when I was running on a hiking trail but I heard its rattle at the last secant and jumped back startled, but then so was the snake judging on how fast it took off. It doesn’t bother me that much that we have them here but still its smart to be prepared so I looked up what to do in case of a rattlesnake bite and here’s what I’ve learned.

Of cores stay calm, one way you can help your self do this is by remembering that rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal even when there not treated. Even in severe cases it usually takes hours before you start to go unconscious, giving you lots of time to fined help. Also you should know 25 % of rattlesnake bites are dry bites with no venom injected.

Keep the affected limb lower than the heart.

Treat for shock and preserve body heat.

Remove any shoes, rings, watches or other restricting items from the bitten limb. It will swell.

Apply a light constricting band a couple inches above and below the bite, however never place the bands on either side of a joint (such as above and below the knee or elbow). The band should be made up of wide, soft material, like a handkerchief or shredded clothing. The purpose of constricting bands is to restrict lymphatic flow, not blood, so they should not be too tight. It should be loose enough to stick a finger between you and the band. Readjust them as necessary when they tighten due to swelling.

Do not apply cold and/or ice packs. Recent studies indicate that application of cold or ice makes the injury much worse.

Don’t cut the bite. The additional tissue damage may actually increase the diffusion of the toxins throughout the body.

Never try to suck out the venom by mouth. If you don’t want the venom in your body you don’t want in it your mouth. It can seep into your blood stream and you’d be spreading it in an even worst way. You could try the suction cup in a snakebite kit if it doesn't delay other needed treatment. Suctioning seldom provides any measurable advantages though.

Don’t apply a tight tourniquet. Such action can result in the loss of the limb.

Wash the wound if you can

If you see this plant,
http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/plantain2.JPG http://www.gardenorganic.org.uk/assets/organicweeds/plantago%20major2.jpg
Broad-leaved Plantain a common weed which grows throughout the US, pick it, mash/ chew the leaves and put the pulp on the bite. It will absorb some of the poison. But if you don’t see it don’t spend to much valuable time looking for it, you could have a friend go look for it quick but he needs to get you to a hospital ASAP.

If you really don’t like snakes you could get some guinea foul http://www.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/0/7/4/medium/470406.jpg I hear they love to eat snakes!

Sleazy_E
04-20-2007, 06:24 AM
Great thread..... I did not know that those plants would help rid the body of venom.... I have those growing in my yard....

owl_girl
04-20-2007, 08:30 AM
I’m glad you liked it :D

bear
04-20-2007, 11:28 AM
Thanks for the info. I have those weeds all over the place. I guess there is a purpose for just about everything. bear

owl_girl
04-20-2007, 10:00 PM
Yes but make sure you pack A LOT on for something as severe as a rattlesnake bite. And keep packing to get as much venom out as possible.

wolf
04-21-2007, 07:58 PM
well thats something I didn't know. nice thread

owl_girl
05-12-2007, 08:51 PM
In the 18th and 19th century people would try rattlesnake master roots as an antidote but no evidence has been found to show that they actually work. I haven’t seen rattlesnake master growing where I live and I don’t know much about the plant or its medical properties. Broad-leaved Plantain is good for drawing out any toxins out of the skin like poison ivy and blood poisoning. I wonder if backing powder or backing Soda would help for little bites, I remember using it for bee stings as a kid. Don't know if backing Soda will really make that much of a difference though.

Anyways this is a photo of rattlesnake master.
http://www.epa.gov/greenacres/plants/images/rattle2.jpg

marcraft
05-30-2007, 03:59 PM
if i was bit id immediately apply a tourniquet and open a vein close to the bite so it could bleed out , i prepair for that sorta thing though so i dont think id have 2 worry , metal boots and extremially long strong thick pants. and i always carry a machete with me so i could pin the snake with a forked stick, chop its head off and cook it , snakes taste great lol

owl_girl
05-30-2007, 08:19 PM
if i was bit id immediately apply a tourniquet and open a vein close to the bite so it could bleed out

Those methods are out of date. You’d loose your limb. If you do what I recommended in the first post you’d likely save your limb and your life. You midis well cut your limb off otherwise. I’d do more research if I were you.

marcraft
05-31-2007, 04:29 AM
im not gona get biten by a snake though lol i have puncture proof low pants and metal boots , and if the snake gets 2 close ill pin it with a forked branch and use my machette to chop its head off , rattlesnake is suposed 2 tast rly good lol

owl_girl
05-31-2007, 08:01 AM
Hmm I’ve never had rattlesnake. If you eat one let me know how it tastes

marcraft
05-31-2007, 03:49 PM
yeah i would unfortunately i no longer live in kamloops (they have an enormous rattlesnake population) which is the only place iv evr seen one.

aviator survivalist
06-09-2007, 07:25 AM
actually i heard rattlers taste like chicken. alot of snakes are eddible too and I belive they have a fairly good amount of protein and calories in them. :)

sh4d0wm4573ri7
06-09-2007, 10:14 AM
rattlers do somewhat taste like chickin (cut a vein ? let it bleed out ?) lmao cmon I'd be better off not doin anything then doin that . I know firsthand of a few men who were bittin by copperhead and they didnt die I do recommend any treatment be as owl girl recomends .

FVR
06-09-2007, 04:19 PM
I don't know, rattlesnake just tastes like rattlesnake. I've eaten a few on lrrps and they were a treat, as were the rabbits and squirrels taken with snares.

I would rec. treatment for any and all snake bites. Watched a guys arm puff up like a balloon once. My good friend from La. who grew up in the bayous educated me on snakes and since then, I just stay away from them.

Most people will live through the poison injected into their bodies. It is the after effects of the enzymes they inject into your skin that pains you. Cottonmouths or water mocs are the worse. You can have a lengthy stay in the hospital not because of the poison, but because the rotting flesh falling off your legs.


Rattlesnakes usually let you know they're there.
Copperheads are chickens, you will usually see them leaving the area.
Water mocs or cottonmouths, will chase you. Very aggressive. Been there, done that and glad I had leather gloves on.
In Ga. we have these little coral snakes that are very deadly. Only good thing is that their fangs are located way back in their mouth which makes it hard for them to bite you. They will bite you, and bite you, and bite you, and hopefully you will notice it before they break through the clothing and into your skin.

Pers. I'm more paranoid about black widows and brown recluses. Black widows, you get bit, you get the anti venom and that's it. You get bit a second time, you go to the hospital and stay awhile. Only get the anti venom once in your life. Brown recluses will just make your life miserable for a long period of time.