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Ph34r
02-16-2010, 06:20 PM
Survival can invoke fear.
Whether this be Vertigo, acrophobia, claustrophobia or even nyctophobia, it can endanger your mental state, and therefore effectiveness in the bush.
It is important you conquer these fears, however insignificant they are.
1. Analyse the fear - Is it logical? Is it based on an earlier experience?
If your fear is based on a childhood experience, think when and why it happened. Face it, you are probably stronger physically and mentally than before. This mixed with a basic survival instinct will pull you through certain situations.
2. Thought - Don't think negatively. Do not even think "i will not die", instead think more positively: "I will survive". Think about what you will do when you get back into your zone of comfort.
3. You are a bushcrafter. You now how to deal with these situations. The human race is one of the most adaptable ever. We have developed machines and new materials. WE WILL NOT BE STOPPED BY FEAR.
Hope this helps,
all feedback appreciated, as is my first guide.
Ph34r
klkak
02-16-2010, 06:38 PM
How about letting your fear lead you to the introductions. When you get there take control of your fear and write an introduction.
Ph34r
02-16-2010, 06:40 PM
Okay, fair doos, but you need to learn how to take control of that fear.
klkak
02-16-2010, 07:03 PM
My only fear is that everyone else fears................ME!:devil:
Mmawww ha ha ha ha ha, mmawww ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....cough, cough, gag, gag, choke, cough, cough, gag....,:blushing:
rebel
02-16-2010, 07:34 PM
Survival can invoke fear.
Whether this be Vertigo, acrophobia, claustrophobia or even nyctophobia, it can endanger your mental state, and therefore effectiveness in the bush.
It is important you conquer these fears, however insignificant they are.
1. Analyse the fear - Is it logical? Is it based on an earlier experience?
If your fear is based on a childhood experience, think when and why it happened. Face it, you are probably stronger physically and mentally than before. This mixed with a basic survival instinct will pull you through certain situations.
2. Thought - Don't think negatively. Do not even think "i will not die", instead think more positively: "I will survive". Think about what you will do when you get back into your zone of comfort.
3. You are a bushcrafter. You now how to deal with these situations. The human race is one of the most adaptable ever. We have developed machines and new materials. WE WILL NOT BE STOPPED BY FEAR.
Hope this helps,
all feedback appreciated, as is my first guide.
Ph34r
Is this Remy?
crashdive123
02-16-2010, 07:37 PM
Yeah, an introduction would be in order for anybody offering advice like this in order to be taken seriously. Think about it. For all we know you could be a young student in a school overseas.
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 07:41 PM
There is nothing to fear but fear itself :)
welderguy
02-16-2010, 07:45 PM
Im scared of bubbles in a hot tub that isnt turned on
hunter63
02-16-2010, 08:09 PM
Okay, fair doos, but you need to learn how to take control of that fear.
No smitte?
Sourdough
02-16-2010, 08:16 PM
Fear is what keeps me alive. Fear is what makes me turn back when the waves are to rough, the bears to plentiful, the cold to painful, the visibility too restricted, or the turbulence to violent when flying, and about 300 other fears, Fear is my friend.....:)
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Fear is what keeps me alive. Fear is what makes me turn back when the waves are to rough, the bears to plentiful, the cold to painful, the visibility too restricted, or the turbulence to violent when flying, and about 300 other fears, Fear is my friend.....:)
That's Not Fear, That's Common Sense :)
Sourdough
02-16-2010, 08:28 PM
That's Not Fear, That's Common Sense :)
It feels like fear.......Tastes like copper on in the mouth, and looks brown in the shorts.........:innocent:
Trabitha
02-16-2010, 08:28 PM
I fear NEEDING to survive in a situation that requires me to, because well...who doesn't? The idea of leaving your home and your comforts IS scary. IMO It's how you DEAL with this fear. I'm the type of person that may dwell on the possibility...but if something bad DOES happen I just deal with what I need to deal with. You don't have TIME to be frightened when a bad situation arrives, you just have to act. Thankfully I'm one of those people. I'll crash after things get calm...but when it matters, I'm happy that I am able to keep my wits about me.
welderguy
02-16-2010, 08:29 PM
Fear is what keeps me alive. Fear is what makes me turn back when the waves are to rough, the bears to plentiful, the cold to painful, the visibility too restricted, or the turbulence to violent when flying, and about 300 other fears, Fear is my friend.....:)
That my friend sounds like solid survival advice to me , follow your fears. if the hair is standing up on the back of your neck thats a good indication you should be doing that .
welderguy
02-16-2010, 08:30 PM
It feels like fear.......Tastes like copper on in the mouth, and looks brown in the shorts.........:innocent:
You got that saying from a hallmark card didnt ya
Pal334
02-16-2010, 08:33 PM
Survival can invoke fear.
Whether this be Vertigo, acrophobia, claustrophobia or even nyctophobia, it can endanger your mental state, and therefore effectiveness in the bush.
It is important you conquer these fears, however insignificant they are.
1. Analyse the fear - Is it logical? Is it based on an earlier experience?
If your fear is based on a childhood experience, think when and why it happened. Face it, you are probably stronger physically and mentally than before. This mixed with a basic survival instinct will pull you through certain situations.
2. Thought - Don't think negatively. Do not even think "i will not die", instead think more positively: "I will survive". Think about what you will do when you get back into your zone of comfort.
3. You are a bushcrafter. You now how to deal with these situations. The human race is one of the most adaptable ever. We have developed machines and new materials. WE WILL NOT BE STOPPED BY FEAR.
Hope this helps,
all feedback appreciated, as is my first guide.
Ph34r
Just curious since there is no information in your profile. What is your background and source for these pearls of wisdom. Specificaly what book did you read to come to these conclusions?
Since as you mentioned "as is my first guide." a frame of reference would be needed for me and many others I would think to judge the usefulness of the information you have offered
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 08:39 PM
It feels like fear.......Tastes like copper on in the mouth, and looks brown in the shorts.........:innocent:
LOl,, Ok,, Yeah,, That would be fear alright ,,, :)
I see fear as a tool to wake you up being alert and aware, Its the panic button that will do you in.
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 08:50 PM
Survival can invoke fear.
Whether this be Vertigo, acrophobia, claustrophobia or even nyctophobia, it can endanger your mental state, and therefore effectiveness in the bush.
It is important you conquer these fears, however insignificant they are.
1. Analyse the fear - Is it logical? Is it based on an earlier experience?
If your fear is based on a childhood experience, think when and why it happened. Face it, you are probably stronger physically and mentally than before. This mixed with a basic survival instinct will pull you through certain situations.
2. Thought - Don't think negatively. Do not even think "i will not die", instead think more positively: "I will survive". Think about what you will do when you get back into your zone of comfort.
3. You are a bushcrafter. You now how to deal with these situations. The human race is one of the most adaptable ever. We have developed machines and new materials. WE WILL NOT BE STOPPED BY FEAR.
Hope this helps,
all feedback appreciated, as is my first guide.
Ph34r
Hmmm, Interesting user name you are using, was this an accident ?
Snipet,
ph34r // 1 up, 2 down love it hate it
buy ph34r // mugs, tshirts and magnets
A well known exploiting, hacker that mainly gains access to hotmail accounts and uses user databases to gain personal information, credit card and Paypal details.
ph34r // will hax j00r accountz1!!1!11!1
ph34r
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ph34r%20%2F%2F
crashdive123
02-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Interesting. I'll be interested to see how Ph34r responds.
Hmmm, Interesting user name you are using, was this an accident ?
Snipet,
ph34r // 1 up, 2 down love it hate it
buy ph34r // mugs, tshirts and magnets
A well known exploiting, hacker that mainly gains access to hotmail accounts and uses user databases to gain personal information, credit card and Paypal details.
ph34r // will hax j00r accountz1!!1!11!1
ph34r
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ph34r%20%2F%2F
Yep. I was just doing a Google on him myself. Probably just a real POS using the ph34r (Fear) screenname.
Mods? Ken thinks it's time for a BANNING! :sneaky2:
Anyone agree? :innocent:
Mods? Ken thinks it's time for a BANNING! :sneaky2:
Anyone agree? :innocent:
2D????:innocent:
crashdive123
02-16-2010, 09:04 PM
Yep. I was just doing a Google on him myself. Probably just a real POS using the ph34r (Fear) screenname.
Mods? Ken thinks it's time for a BANNING! :sneaky2:
Anyone agree? :innocent:
No rules were broken. I think we should make ph34r welcome in our house unless a reason is given not to.
RangerXanatos
02-16-2010, 09:05 PM
I don't think he's done anything worthy of a banning.
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 09:06 PM
I don't think he's done anything worthy of a banning.
I dug a little deeper, that is also just an acronym for "Fear" sorry, didn't mean to rock the boat ,
RangerXanatos
02-16-2010, 09:09 PM
I dug a little deeper, that is also just an acronym for "Fear" sorry, didn't mean to rock the boat ,
Now, that you mention it, I can see that. Good thing we don't have witch burnings anymore, huh.
ph34r stands for fear. Get it? ph=f. Hence, his post on fear. Your welcome.
Justin Case
02-16-2010, 09:10 PM
Now, that you mention it, I can see that. Good thing we don't have witch burnings anymore, huh.
I am not so sure we dont ,, LOL
2dumb2kwit
02-16-2010, 09:20 PM
Hey Ken....are you near Salem???:innocent:
No rules were broken. I think we should make ph34r welcome in our house unless a reason is given not to.
Just call it a "gut feeling." I've learned to pay attention to them. Rather be safe than sorry. :)
I'd have the same gut feeling if someone used a screen name like "serialrapist" or "forumtroll." Just sayin'. :innocent:
After all, Ph34r DID ask for feedback.........
Hey Ken....are you near Salem???:innocent:
75 miles away. Too bad........ :innocent:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/salem-beer-works-salem
Kiltman51
02-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Ph34r,
So far, so good! This is great. Look forward to reading the full version.
welderguy
02-16-2010, 09:32 PM
Now, that you mention it, I can see that. Good thing we don't have witch burnings anymore, huh.
We don't? what am i going to do with the torches and fuel oil I got ready.
RangerXanatos
02-16-2010, 09:36 PM
We don't? what am i going to do with the torches and fuel oil I got ready.
I think you should offer to put them in good use by establishing a tiki bar and inviting all of WSF over for a good time. :innocent:
welderguy
02-16-2010, 09:41 PM
I think you should offer to put them in good use by establishing a tiki bar and inviting all of WSF over for a good time. :innocent:
Well if thats the other option LOL
crashdive123
02-16-2010, 09:55 PM
We don't? what am i going to do with the torches and fuel oil I got ready.
Sarky will buy them - especially if you throw in a couple of pitchforks.:innocent:
As we (the wsf members) walk though the valley of death, we fear no evil, cuz we'er the meanest, most prepared muthas in the hole da*n valley!
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:04 PM
Sarky will buy them - especially if you throw in a couple of pitchforks.:innocent:
would a couple salad forks be ok.
crashdive123
02-16-2010, 10:07 PM
That one might be a hard sell.
would a couple salad forks be ok.
Would those be #2, #4, or #11? :innocent:
http://tparty.typepad.com/the_tcozy/images/2007/12/04/tablediagram.jpg
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:19 PM
#2 I do beleive
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:22 PM
its salad, dinner , fish, desert ?
its salad, dinner , fish, desert ?
How would I know? This is a Wilderness Forum, dammit! I only use a spork. :sneaky2:
How would I know? This is a Wilderness Forum, dammit! I only use a spork. :sneaky2:
And 2dumb only uses a foon, so don't ask him either. :innocent:
klkak
02-16-2010, 10:26 PM
I didn't think either one of you were allowed to use anything sharp or pointy!
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:26 PM
How would I know? This is a Wilderness Forum, dammit! I only use a spork. :sneaky2:
LMAO, I looked it up I was wrong its its fish, dinner, salad, dessert
I didn't think either one of you were allowed to use anything sharp or pointy!
Shouldn't you be out wrecking a snow machine right about now? :sneaky2:
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:28 PM
I didn't think either one of you were allowed to use anything sharp or pointy!
Thats why I had to use crayons in High school, always wondered about that.
Thats why I had to use crayons in High school, always wondered about that.
Felt tipped markers here. They wouldn't let me use the crayon sharpener on the bottom of the Crayola box. :innocent:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Crayola-64.jpg/220px-Crayola-64.jpg (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/wiki/File:Crayola-64.jpg)
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Felt tipped markers here. They wouldn't let me use the crayon sharpener on the bottom of the Crayola box. :innocent:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Crayola-64.jpg/220px-Crayola-64.jpg (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/wiki/File:Crayola-64.jpg)
How is that fair my box never had a shapener, and you got markers , well thats ok cause the crayons tasted better than a marker anyway.
Batch
02-16-2010, 10:46 PM
Would those be #2, #4, or #11? :innocent:
http://tparty.typepad.com/the_tcozy/images/2007/12/04/tablediagram.jpg
Take everything that goes on 5, 6, 12, 13, and 14 and combine them on 6. Send 15 back and have them bring you a beer. Tuck 1 in your collar and use 10 to shovel the grub down and wash down with beer.
Every once in a while look around the room and chuckle at them uptight dudes that can't even figure out how to eat. :cool2:
How is that fair my box never had a shapener, and you got markers , well thats ok cause the crayons tasted better than a marker anyway.
Let's not talk about 4th graders sniffing markers, okay? :sneaky2:
Take everything that goes on 5, 6, 12, 13, and 14 and combine them on 6. Send 15 back and have them bring you a beer. Tuck 1 in your collar and use 10 to shovel the grub down and wash down with beer.
Every once in a while look around the room and chuckle at them uptight dudes that can't even figure out how to eat. :cool2:
I eat fried chicken, ribs, sandwiches, french fries, popcorn, and even bacon (which CAN'T be properly eaten with a fork if crisp) with my hands. Same with pretzels, cookies, ..........
So wadda' I even need 10 for? :innocent:
Don't know about salad forks, I have a fear of salads.
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:54 PM
Let's not talk about 4th graders sniffing markers, okay? :sneaky2:
Ken was 4th grade a bad year for you.
welderguy
02-16-2010, 10:58 PM
You all know we should be apologizing to the OP cause this thread got HIJACKED BAD.
Batch
02-16-2010, 11:02 PM
I eat fried chicken, ribs, sandwiches, french fries, popcorn, and even bacon (which CAN'T be properly eaten with a fork if crisp) with my hands. Same with pretzels, cookies, ..........
So wadda' I even need 10 for? :innocent:
Ken, you are correct that bacon can not be eaten with a fork properly. But, if you pick up the bacon and crumble it on to 10. Which by the way is technically referred to as a big a$$ spoon. You will find that as you use the spoon to scoop the crumbled bacon toward your mouth, if you will just extend your pinky finger, that you are eating it all proper and stuff. :cool2:
klkak
02-16-2010, 11:02 PM
Appologize for what? We don't even know who he is. He could be a figment of our magination.....or something.
Ken was 4th grade a bad year for you.
Yes. :sneaky2:
You all know we should be apologizing to the OP cause this thread got HIJACKED BAD.
Well, didn't he say.........
all feedback appreciated......Ph34r ??? :innocent:
Ken, you are correct that bacon can not be eaten with a fork properly. But, if you pick up the bacon and crumble it on to 10. Which by the way is technically referred to as a big a$$ spoon. You will find that as you use the spoon to scoop the crumbled bacon toward your mouth, if you will just extend your pinky finger, that you are eating it all proper and stuff. :cool2:
Can I be "all proper and stuff" if I still fart and burp at the same time I eat the bacon? :innocent:
Appologize for what? We don't even know who he is. He could be a figment of our magination.....or something.
READ THIS AND LEARN, EVERYBODY. :sneaky2:
Thank you, klkak! Posted, as always, like a true Ex-Spert! :)
Batch
02-16-2010, 11:08 PM
You all know we should be apologizing to the OP cause this thread got HIJACKED BAD.
How the hell did we go from a discussion about survival spoons to apologizing to Ron Howard's childhood character?
Talk about thread drift. :innocent:
klkak
02-16-2010, 11:08 PM
Felt tipped markers here. They wouldn't let me use the crayon sharpener on the bottom of the Crayola box. :innocent:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Crayola-64.jpg/220px-Crayola-64.jpg (http://www.wilderness-survival.net/wiki/File:Crayola-64.jpg)
I'mmma scared. That box is looking at me and showing its teeth.
CRaYoLA
llIIii..iiIIll
I'mmma scared. That box is looking at me and showing its teeth.
CRaYoLA
IIii..iiII
Have no Ph34r, klkak! :innocent:
Batch
02-16-2010, 11:09 PM
Can I be "all proper and stuff" if I still fart and burp at the same time I eat the bacon? :innocent:
Long as your pinky is extended of course...
Long as your pinky is extended of course...
Gotcha'! Same way I eat my fish "all proper and stuff," right? :innocent:
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:BHeyDsjy1Fer3M:http://schadt.typepad.com/photos/holidays_2005/jan_1_trout_hold.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://schadt.typepad.com/photos/holidays_2005/jan_1_trout_hold.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hornetbear.com/2009/08/jan-1st-ish-fishing-with-terp.html&usg=__vk33fbgAyvqeZ_1WndrFwl60VOg=&h=497&w=640&sz=39&hl=en&start=12&itbs=1&tbnid=BHeyDsjy1Fer3M:&tbnh=106&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dextend%2Bpinky%2Bfinger%26gbv%3D2%26h l%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)
Long as your pinky is extended of course...
......or drink my coffee? :innocent:
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:3UgzG5bU70-WyM:http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OKPR__v79aE/Rq03xPVRzXI/AAAAAAAABUU/RXmEQm8wN34/Tea-cup-pinky-up.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh3.ggpht.com/_OKPR__v79aE/Rq03xPVRzXI/AAAAAAAABUU/RXmEQm8wN34/Tea-cup-pinky-up.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D102617%26page%3D4&usg=__t6m-u1W-govNv2t0wTAbzw5rkCM=&h=960&w=1280&sz=74&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=3UgzG5bU70-WyM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtea%2Bcup%2Bpinkie%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG)
Batch
02-16-2010, 11:19 PM
Exactly! :cool2:
Yep, that's me, alright......... :innocent:
http://classyeater.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/classy-cover1.jpg
welderguy
02-16-2010, 11:40 PM
how The Hell Did We Go From A Discussion About Survival Spoons To Apologizing To Ron Howard's Childhood Character?
Talk About Thread Drift. :innocent:
Lmao Thats Funny!!!!
welderguy
02-16-2010, 11:41 PM
Appologize for what? We don't even know who he is. He could be a figment of our magination.....or something.
Good point carry on.
crashdive123
02-17-2010, 12:20 AM
Yep, that's me, alright......... :innocent:
http://classyeater.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/classy-cover1.jpg
Geez Ken. You going all ELEGANT on us?
welderguy
02-17-2010, 12:24 AM
Here in Texas this is elegant table ware
Geez Ken. You going all ELEGANT on us?
Only when I break out the titanium utensils. :)
Here in Texas this is elegant table ware
But the tables are still A LOT larger (longer) in Texas, aren't they?
http://bohemianhellhole.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/23/black_dining_room_1.gif
welderguy
02-17-2010, 12:37 AM
Only when I break out the titanium utensils. :)
But the tables are still A LOT larger (longer) in Texas, aren't they?
http://bohemianhellhole.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/23/black_dining_room_1.gif
Yes they are.
Ph34r
02-17-2010, 05:16 AM
A few things:
Thanks for the criticism; but in some survival situations, you need to take control of your fears to survive. But to an extent, i do agree fear is there to protect you.
second of all, i am not a hacker. I just acquired the name ph34r in my ongoing military career. But i did find all the speculation amusing.
When I was on corporate staff they brought in an etiquette expert for us. It was quite fascinating. Afterward, we went out for a beer. By the way, when passing food to another at the table, the food should always be passed counter-clockwise. Now you know.
At the campfire, any direction is proper as long as you don't throw it.
Winnie
02-17-2010, 09:06 AM
At the campfire, any direction is proper as long as you don't throw it.
Oh I don't know about that Rick, when a Guide leader cremates pancakes twice in quick succession, that's about all it's good for. We had no need for frisbees:innocent:
BENESSE
02-17-2010, 09:06 AM
When I was on corporate staff they brought in an etiquette expert for us. It was quite fascinating. Afterward, we went out for a beer. By the way, when passing food to another at the table, the food should always be passed counter-clockwise. Now you know.
At the campfire, any direction is proper as long as you don't throw it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpB3ME_Xem0
Winnie
02-17-2010, 09:28 AM
I have that film on DVD Bee, We still have hysterics laughing! I just clicked on the link, and Winnie jnr guessed what it was and started laughing!
BENESSE
02-17-2010, 09:37 AM
I have that film on DVD Bee, We still have hysterics laughing! I just clicked on the link, and Winnie jnr guessed what it was and started laughing!
We do to.
I can pretty much mouth every line, and never get tired of seeing it over and over again.
Stargazer
02-17-2010, 10:19 AM
Speaking of Witch hunts.We took the kids to Salem and who do you think I saw riding a bike?
Ken ya need a little sun buddy.
rebel
02-17-2010, 12:25 PM
Speaking of Witch hunts.We took the kids to Salem and who do you think I saw riding a bike?
Ken ya need a little sun buddy.
No indoor plumbing in Salem?
billdawg
02-17-2010, 05:33 PM
Don't know about salad forks, I have a fear of salads.
Exactly. Salads aren't food, it's what food eats.
hunter63
02-17-2010, 05:38 PM
No indoor plumbing in Salem?
Deer blinds.............
2dumb2kwit
02-17-2010, 06:39 PM
No indoor plumbing in Salem?
LOL....I thought Sourdoughs "out-house with a view" was catching on!:innocent:
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