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panch0
02-05-2010, 10:21 AM
Here is a 1084/15n20 Steel Damascus blade I just finished. The handles are iron wood. I was too lazy to get the respirator out and am paying the cost right now with a cough. This is my first time to work with damascus and etching the steel to bring out the contrast. Whatcha think? I learned alot making this one.


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RangerXanatos
02-05-2010, 10:26 AM
That is absolutely beautiful! When you going to start selling these babies?

Sourdough
02-05-2010, 10:55 AM
Very nice. How thick is the finished blade.......?

panch0
02-05-2010, 10:58 AM
At its thickest point at the ricasso it is a bit shy of 3/16" thick. The tang is tapered down to about 3/32" and the blade also has a distal taper.

Rick
02-05-2010, 11:04 AM
Frank - That's a keeper. What a beautiful knife.

Sourdough
02-05-2010, 11:11 AM
How much more would a damascus knife sell for, over non-damascus knife....???

panch0
02-05-2010, 11:20 AM
The regular piece of steel would be around 6-10 bucks a foot for premium steel. Apiece of Damascus would be from 45-100 dollars for a section around 8-9" of quality steel. Plus there is a process in bringing out the contrast of the different steels. So the price of the steel plus the time to do the etching process. Normal prices would be 135-150 for non-damascus and 250 + for damascus. The stainless damascus is just crazy expensive around 250 dollars a foot!:eek:

Rick
02-05-2010, 11:30 AM
Oh. So you buy the steel ready made? I thought you made it. Boink! The light bulb went on (it's an L.E.D. these days). Still a dang fine knife. Beautiful.

panch0
02-05-2010, 11:41 AM
I dont produce the damascus billet. I bang and grind out the knife from the bar stock. It is more work since it is not precision ground to 3/16" I have to make sure it is flat before I even get started with it. The blade shape and profile is all be. I just buy the hunk of steel from which I grind off what doesn't look like a knife. I don't buy the blades pre made. If I did I would mention it in the first line of the post. Not that there is anything wrong with it. You can get a great knife either way.

Damascus is very hard and time consuming to make. I am no where close to having the tools to make this stuff. Its better left to the pros. Thanks again guys!

Sourdough
02-05-2010, 11:43 AM
Normal prices would be 135-150 for non-damascus and 250 + for damascus.

Here a drop blade like that would sell for $195.00 to $225.00 Non-damascus, and $325.00 to $395.00 in damascus steel, also a sheath is required here, or it will never sell.

panch0
02-05-2010, 12:13 PM
Yea I have seen those prices and they are not unusual. I was talking more along my prices. I am a new Maker not really well known and my first time working with Damascus. I will be making a sheath for the new owner of this blade. Thanks guys.

A little secret on this knife. It is the first time that I talked to a blade I make with a sexy voice.:blushing: I was kind of reluctant to proceed with etching the blade since I had never done it before. So I put the blade in the solution and left it ther for 10 minutes. I went back to check it out and when I pulled it out of the solution I said this with out thinking about it. " Oooh yeah baby you are looking gooood.." I am glad my wife wasn't around cause she might have thought I was on the phone or something else. Hehhehe......

hunter63
02-05-2010, 12:33 PM
Very nice, I just love the patterns the damascus blades have.
Did the specs specify how many folds were used in that piece of steel?

crashdive123
02-05-2010, 12:50 PM
Frank - that is outstanding work.

panch0
02-05-2010, 01:01 PM
Very nice, I just love the patterns the damascus blades have.
Did the specs specify how many folds were used in that piece of steel?

Yes it did and it was 90 layers rain drop damascus.

hunter63
02-05-2010, 01:11 PM
Cool, I thought maybe the "1084/15n20 Steel Damascus " the numbers had a significance.

Very nice work.

panch0
02-05-2010, 01:28 PM
They are just the type of steels used to make the damascus.

mcgyver
02-05-2010, 01:49 PM
That is a work of art!
Very good job!!

Ole WV Coot
02-05-2010, 03:51 PM
Frank, got a question. On the Damascus edge is it serrated just a little? I have seen some that slice great and under magnification or close inspection the edge almost has the appearance of tiny serrations. Good work, by the way.

panch0
02-05-2010, 04:43 PM
Coot, I can see how there would be serrations where the two different steels meet. On this blade after being in the ferric chloride getting etched, there is a difference in the two steels. The 1084 steel is lower and dark. The 15n20 steel is higher and has a lighter etch. I imagine after use one steel will patina quicker than the other causing what you described to occur. I have used it to cut stuff and it slices great. I need to find a magnifying source to check that out.

Camp10
02-05-2010, 05:01 PM
Nice knife Frank! Iron wood is one of my favorites. Who do you buy your damascus from? I like Alabama damascus but I dont make many out of it.

rebel
02-07-2010, 11:44 AM
Excellent work!